[gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials

Tue Jul 13 13:56:01 UTC 2010

Rob,

These are all good points.  I must say, though, that I was surprised to find that my Daughter's MAC was able to connect to our home network and copy files she 
needed from the Windows computer she had been using and all seemed to work.  She has e-mailed me files from her MAC prepared both in TextEdit and in Open 
Office for me to print and they printed all right.  She had to pick a format in Open Office that emulated Microsoft office or RTF, though, but  it worked.  She saved a 
song for me in MP3 format on her MAC and put it on a jump drive that I, in turn, put in my Windows laptop and copied the MP3 file to my computer.  The apple 
system does use some extra files that are hidden on the MAC, so I had to sort through what was there to find the file I wanted.  In short, I would not ignore the 
compatibility issue, but I have been surprised at what we have been able to do.  However, I had a little Dell printer that I was hoping she could use and there just 
seems no way to get it to work.  In doing some searches, I find that telling the MAC that the printer is really a particular Lexmark printer mostly works.  Therefore, 
hardware compatibility can still be an issue.  However, a Samsung printer I have seems to work fine on the MAC or on Windows, although it sometimes needs to be 
reset when changing from one computer to the other.

I say all of this only to make the point that some of what I assumed would be an issue has been less of one than I had thought.

Best regards,

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:05:41 -0500,  Rob Tabor wrote:

>Hello Laura and List.

>The OS compatibility dilemma is exactly what I tried to address in a recent 
>posting, albeit not as artfully as Laura's observations and concerns. Having 
>no direct experience in the Apple environment I am unable to respond 
>directly to Laura's question. However, I have heard that the 
>interoperability problem rears its two janice-like ugly heads, namely file 
>sharing and network interface. The first problem it appears could be 
>remedied by installing dual OS's which seems like an inefficient way to do 
>your IT, or by making use of a web based collaboration platform such as 
>Google Chrome, which may not yet be ready for prime time. I suspect the 
>network interface problem is much more complicated but I'll defer judgment 
>to the techies among us. Then, as mentioned by Mr. Foret, Linix based 
>systems add a whole new layer of corporate and consumer choices.

>I mention these issues to encourage anyone who is entering into the personal 
>IT arena for the first time or who contemplate changing to a different OS to 
>consider these issues carefully and to take the choice that meets one's I.T 
>needs 90 percent of the time.

>Best regards,
>Rob Tabor and White Cane Ra£l
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials

>> the only thing that a windowss groupie could say about that is that Mac
>> doesn't get viruses because it is not yet popular enough to have the bad
>> guys attacking it.  If it has a simple installation protocol, then it is 
>> all
>> the easier for bad stuff to quietly install itself in there as well.
>> I don't know enough to say this is plausible, I'm only speaking from 
>> general
>> experience with unix and windows.
>> I'm concerned about interoperability between mac and pc.    I have an old
>> mac that I hardle ever use.  Virtually all of my activity is on my windows
>> laptops.
>> I want to move to mac for some activities but worry I won't be able to
>> exchange files between mac and pc without compatibility problems.
>> Has anyone else resolved this problem?
>> TIA
>> --le
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
>>
>>
>> I suppose what I am about to say could be considered a shot at windows,
>> though that is not what I am intending here, indeed, if someone is going 
>> to
>> say something is better than something else, they should provide reasons 
>> for
>> it. So, I will provide a few reasons why I think the mac operating system 
>> is
>> better, aside from the fact that the screen reader is built in of course.
>> The fact that it's much more difficult to get a virus on the mac has 
>> already
>> been covered, so let's look at a few other things, particularly with
>> applications. As someone who works in tech support, I get several calls 
>> from
>> users attempting to install our software, and receive errors that files
>> cannot register, or there are conflicts with different versions of the 
>> same
>> file on someone's system. The mac does not have these problems. In most
>> cases, the application is simply copied to the applications folder, and 
>> when
>> it is run, it creates the preference files that it will use. If you want 
>> to
>> uninstall a program, simply delete it from the applications folder, and go
>> to your library folder and delete the preference files. No need to worry
>> about shared files, and no left over entries cluttering up a registry.
>> Clearly, when it comes to applications, the mac operating system has a
>> better approach
>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>
>>> Well, of course, point taken.  Now, here's the funny thing about that.  I
>>> find myself now doing the very thing I said I would never do.  Gives one
>>> pause for thought doesn't it?  Looks like you win one.
>>>
>>> Sorry about that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> E-Mail:
>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:47 AM, David Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is it that Mac users almost always have to take a shot at Windows?
>>>> If I want religion I will go to church.  If I want to do some work I 
>>>> will
>>>> use the computer/OS of my choice!
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 08:05 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>>>>> Frankly, I'd have to agree with Mike.  IF you feel you must continue to
>>>>> run Windows, (for what ever strange reason), Just couldn't resist
>>>>> that...yes, Microsoft Security Essentials is indeed a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>
>>>>
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