[gui-talk] NVDA and Firefox V4
Kenlawrence124 at aol.com
Kenlawrence124 at aol.com
Thu Mar 31 18:23:06 UTC 2011
Hi ken here. downloaded it before I found out that Webvisum didn't work
with it so not going back just won't use it as much. I have played around
on it though using my last fm radio on it and testing it on sites when I had
a problem with IE 9 on Facebook mobile. got the adobe Flash 10.2.5 plugin
installed to make firefox work with Last FM. Haven't really fooled around
with the menus yet but it seems to work well. Oh Yeah on the IE 9 issue
Just make sure you have the compatibility settings working right. in Tools
look for where it says compatibility view settings. not where i9t just
says compatibility view, look for the settings and in the dialog box make sure
it is checked where it says see all internet sites in compatibilithy view.
If you don't check that you will find that the arros won't respond also
links list view won't work. you won't even be able to use quick access keys
B for button, F for form ETC.
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:26:13 -0400
From: "Hoffman, Allen" <Allen.Hoffman at dhs.gov>
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Subject: [gui-talk] nvda and firefox v4
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Anybody have firefox v4 and nvda working?
When I tried it I get almost nothing coming out of nvda for the web page
and the new file menus are annoying to say the least.
Allen Hoffman
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:29:14 -0400
From: "Don Moore" <don.moore48 at comcast.net>
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As soon as I saw that it wouldn't work with web visum, I decided not to
download it until it does.
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Anybody have firefox v4 and nvda working?
When I tried it I get almost nothing coming out of nvda for the web page
and the new file menus are annoying to say the least.
Allen Hoffman
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:40:12 -0400
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [gui-talk] need wireless settings controlled by Windows
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Somehow on my desktop, the settings have been changed. I want to make sure
that my Wireless Internet settings are being controlled by Windows and not
the Wireless card or program. I am using a Linksis router and running
Windows XP pro. I'm using Jaws 10 if that matters.
My problem is the Internet keeps logging on and off. Someone said the
computer might be arguing over which program is controlling its wireless
settings. How can I make sure that Windows is controlling my settings?
Thank
you. One of the kids messed with the router and it hasn't been right
since.
My laptop is fine; it's just the desktop and that is the computer on which
I
primarily do my medical transcription work. Thanks in advance for any
help.
Sherri
Sherri Brun, NFBF Secretary and Newsline? Coordinator
Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
Secretary FDCP INC
E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
www.nfbnewsline.org
http://www.nfbflorida.org
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"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
Lennon
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:28:50 -0500
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
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List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need wireless settings controlled by Windows
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Sherri,
It is really hard to diagnose this kind of thing from a distance. I have
some ideas as to what may be happening, though, but it depends some on what
your
kids did. Is there a cable plugged into your computer? If it has cable
and wireless, and if you don't ever use wireless, turning off the wireless
on the desktop
would be a good idea.
If you have a wireless connection only, I don't think that it is likely
that the wireless is fighting with Windows. I think it is more likely that
you may be
conflicting with another computer on your network. To know for sure, it
would be necessary to know how all devices on your network were configured.
If
there is a mixture of computers using DHCP and dynamic addressing, for
example, could cause this behavior. Life is no longer as simple as it once
was.
Besides computers, I pods, cellphones, and game consoles may all be
connecting to your network. Therefore, I would first try unplugging your router
for
thirty seconds and then plug it in again. This should reset things and
cause all devices to request addresses from your network again. I should add
that I
have had some trouble on my network with the way the BrailleNote gets
addresses, so if you have a braillenote, and you use it on your network, let me
know. I have also had some trouble on my network with Macs somehow
freezing my wireless network. If any of your kids have a MAC, you may need to
reset your router once in a while. If you have internet through your
cable company, you could have trouble during heavy traffic times with your
connection.
Finally, be sure that you have some kind of security on your wireless netwo
rk. It is amazing to me how many networks I find as we are sitting at a
stoplight
that have no security at all. The security geeks will tell you that WEPP
security with your phone number, for example, as a key won't keep any
serious
hacker off your network and they are right. I would argue, though, that
if serious security becomes too hard to implement so there is no security,
you are
better off using even the simplest security. At least it will keep some
kid next door from using your internet connection by accident. My kids
connected their
WII game center to a neighbor's unsecure internet network completely by
accident. The WII found it and connected and they thought they had it made.
When I asked where they entered our security key, it became evident that
the WII was not connected to our network at all. Somebody connected to your
network from outside could be causing unanticipated demands, and of course
there are risks beyond the demands.
If none of this helps, we'll need more details. However, if your network
and your problems are complicated, you may need to get someone with some
background in networks to check it out locally. Your internet service
provider might be able to offer some help.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:40:12 -0400, Sherri wrote:
>Somehow on my desktop, the settings have been changed. I want to make
sure
>that my Wireless Internet settings are being controlled by Windows and
not
>the Wireless card or program. I am using a Linksis router and running
>Windows XP pro. I'm using Jaws 10 if that matters.
>My problem is the Internet keeps logging on and off. Someone said the
>computer might be arguing over which program is controlling its wireless
>settings. How can I make sure that Windows is controlling my settings?
Thank
>you. One of the kids messed with the router and it hasn't been right
since.
>My laptop is fine; it's just the desktop and that is the computer on
which I
>primarily do my medical transcription work. Thanks in advance for any
help.
>Sherri
>Sherri Brun, NFBF Secretary and Newsline? Coordinator
>Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>Secretary FDCP INC
>E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>www.nfbnewsline.org
>http://www.nfbflorida.org
>http://nfbfgoc.org
>"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>Lennon
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:59:10 -0500
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:03:20 -0500
From: "Freeh, Jessica" <JFreeh at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
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To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Subject: [gui-talk] McCarran International Airport Discriminates
Against Blind Passengers
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Las Vegas, Nevada (March 30, 2011): The National
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which administers McCarran International
Airport. McCarran uses common-use self-service
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touchscreen interface without any auxiliary aids,
such as a voice guidance program, and therefore
cannot be used by blind passengers. Passengers
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with these features, but has neglected to do
so. McCarran has also refused to respond to the
plaintiffs? offer to work collaboratively on
implementing available technological solutions.
Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
Federation of the Blind, said: ?Blind passengers
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deployed by others, and involves little
cost. Instead of enjoying the features and
convenience of these kiosks, including a quicker
and more convenient check-in process, blind
passengers must either wait in long lines at the
ticket counter or share personal information with
strangers in order to use the kiosks. We will
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:02:03 -0400
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing
List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need wireless settings controlled by Windows
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Steve, Thanks for the thorough explanation. The kids changed some setting
and apparently my desktop likes it now, so we are back online. I will tell
them about not using the phone number as a password for security. I'm not
sure if they did that, but you raise a valid point. Thanks again.
Sherri
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To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List"
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need wireless settings controlled by Windows
Sherri,
It is really hard to diagnose this kind of thing from a distance. I have
some ideas as to what may be happening, though, but it depends some on
what
your
kids did. Is there a cable plugged into your computer? If it has cable
and
wireless, and if you don't ever use wireless, turning off the wireless on
the desktop
would be a good idea.
If you have a wireless connection only, I don't think that it is likely
that
the wireless is fighting with Windows. I think it is more likely that you
may be
conflicting with another computer on your network. To know for sure, it
would be necessary to know how all devices on your network were
configured.
If
there is a mixture of computers using DHCP and dynamic addressing, for
example, could cause this behavior. Life is no longer as simple as it
once
was.
Besides computers, I pods, cellphones, and game consoles may all be
connecting to your network. Therefore, I would first try unplugging your
router for
thirty seconds and then plug it in again. This should reset things and
cause all devices to request addresses from your network again. I should
add that I
have had some trouble on my network with the way the BrailleNote gets
addresses, so if you have a braillenote, and you use it on your network,
let
me
know. I have also had some trouble on my network with Macs somehow
freezing
my wireless network. If any of your kids have a MAC, you may need to
reset your router once in a while. If you have internet through your
cable
company, you could have trouble during heavy traffic times with your
connection.
Finally, be sure that you have some kind of security on your wireless
network. It is amazing to me how many networks I find as we are sitting
at
a stoplight
that have no security at all. The security geeks will tell you that WEPP
security with your phone number, for example, as a key won't keep any
serious
hacker off your network and they are right. I would argue, though, that
if
serious security becomes too hard to implement so there is no security,
you
are
better off using even the simplest security. At least it will keep some
kid
next door from using your internet connection by accident. My kids
connected their
WII game center to a neighbor's unsecure internet network completely by
accident. The WII found it and connected and they thought they had it
made.
When I asked where they entered our security key, it became evident that
the
WII was not connected to our network at all. Somebody connected to your
network from outside could be causing unanticipated demands, and of course
there are risks beyond the demands.
If none of this helps, we'll need more details. However, if your network
and your problems are complicated, you may need to get someone with some
background in networks to check it out locally. Your internet service
provider might be able to offer some help.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:40:12 -0400, Sherri wrote:
>Somehow on my desktop, the settings have been changed. I want to make sure
>that my Wireless Internet settings are being controlled by Windows and not
>the Wireless card or program. I am using a Linksis router and running
>Windows XP pro. I'm using Jaws 10 if that matters.
>My problem is the Internet keeps logging on and off. Someone said the
>computer might be arguing over which program is controlling its wireless
>settings. How can I make sure that Windows is controlling my settings?
>Thank
>you. One of the kids messed with the router and it hasn't been right
since.
>My laptop is fine; it's just the desktop and that is the computer on
which
>I
>primarily do my medical transcription work. Thanks in advance for any
help.
>Sherri
>Sherri Brun, NFBF Secretary and Newsline? Coordinator
>Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>Secretary FDCP INC
>E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>www.nfbnewsline.org
>http://www.nfbflorida.org
>http://nfbfgoc.org
>"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>Lennon
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