[gui-talk] Accessibility of EFTPS Site

Wed Feb 15 07:25:52 UTC 2012

All email is identical to posting on a public bulletin board unless 
encrypted.  The I.R.S. most certainly has the capacity and resources to 
do this they actually catch tax cheats, so level of competence is rather 
high.  One other possibility since braille is so toxic in here might be 
for a ring back system to be set up.  If you don't have anyone around 
you that is trustworthy and cannot read print, you could call a 
designated phone number.  The phone would collect your caller id and 
then hang up.  The I.R.S. would get the billing information for that 
phone number and cross check it with social security to see if permanent 
blindness was on that record.  If so, you would get a call back and get 
told your pin after identity had been confirmed.  I'm sure with this 
email several cases not covered exist, I'll only address those within my 
experience and allow others who wish to to address those I haven't 
covered.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Frendly_Nadia wrote:

> With all do respect I agree with mike on this one. Everything it seems
> is a fight for accessibility, but we have to adapt to a point or we
> are left behind in a sighted world. I do wish that they could add to
> an updated version of the ADA. That websites must follow the W3C
> standers for accessibility. Not only would that help us, it would weed
> out the crap that is worthless vs the helpful stuff on the internet.
> It would work even better maybe if they billed them for it not being
> accessible. I like that idea, but with such a small group it is kind
> of hard to push. On the other side, half the junk websites on the
> internet that can not make them self accessible would be gone because
> it would eat their pocket book. It has been a dream of mine and might
> just stay a dream. There would be a lot less things on the internet
> that's for sure though. Love the idea have no idea how it would go
> into plan. That is if it would ever go into plan. What do you think
> about that? Than again a law means nothing if no one is enforcing it.
> 
> On 2/13/12, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with this argument is that email is actually more secure than
> > USPS snail mail.  It is fairly easy for someone to break into a mailbox and
> > steal the PIN notice.  And what if the mailman delivers the PIN notice to
> > the wrong box by mistake?  My mail is always being misdelivered.  I suspect
> > that the real reason why the IRS can't send the PIN via email is that they
> > are simply to inept and incompetent to implement it.
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: "'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List'"
> > <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of EFTPS Site
> >
> >
> >> If you don't have a reader whom you can trust, you are in a world of hurt!
> >>
> >> And the IRS probably figures that email isn't sufficiently secure. I know
> >> plenty of attorneys who will not handle some things via email for
> >> precisely
> >> that reason.
> >>
> >> There are ways around this but as long as the "Anonymous" bunch can do its
> >> thing, people are going to be skiddish.
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:07 AM
> >> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [gui-talk] Accessibility of EFTPS Site
> >>
> >>
> >> A few days ago, I registered with the IRS's Electronic Federal Taxpayer
> >> Payment System (EFTPS.gov) site, which purports to be accessible in
> >> compliance with section 508 and the ADA.  The registration process itself
> >> was straightforward and presented no unusual problems for JAWS.  However,
> >> in
> >> order to log on to the site, you need a PIN, which is sent to you via USPS
> >> snailmail within 7 days of completeing the registration procedure.  This
> >> means that unless you have a scanner with text to speech software, you
> >> cannot read the PIN notice without sighted help.  What if you don't happen
> >> to have a trusted friend or family member handy to read it to you?  To me,
> >> this means that the EFTPS site is not completely accessible after all,
> >> contrary to their claim.  When I called EFTPS support and asked why the
> >> PIN
> >> could not be sent via email, I was told that they were not set up to do
> >> that.  Typical of the IRS's bumbling bureaucracy . Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Gerald
> >>
> >>
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