[gui-talk] Response to "The Hands That Feed"

[Ray Foret Jr]

Sorry Peter, we do not agree.  Mike's response is, I feel, much more reasonable.


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On Feb 26, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:

> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> Hoping and encouraging is not enough. The resolution was fine as it was.
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List" 
> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Response to "The Hands That Feed"
> 
> 
> In response to this specificly, I do think that deeply disappointed is still 
> too strong. Apple has included accessibility in all of their products, and 
> it's very well done. Apple has gone well above and beyond the minimum 
> requirements, to the point where voiceover is one of the best, if not the 
> best screen reader around. I would put the capabilities of voiceover against 
> the windows screen readers any day when it comes to functionality and 
> useability. For this particular resolution, I would have said something 
> like, we hope and encourage apple in the future to require that all approved 
> applications be made as accessible as possible, by labeling all controls and 
> making all elements of their application readable with the built in 
> voiceover screen reader.
> On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Curtis Chong wrote:
> 
>> Dear Ray:
>> 
>> "With respect to the resolution which the NFB passed at the 2011 
>> convention,
>> I must strongly disagree; not so much with what your resolution intended 
>> to
>> do; but rather, with the condemn and deplore language you employed."
>> 
>> As I tried to make clear in my post, the resolution that was passed at the
>> NFB 2011 convention did not say 'condemn and deplore" at all.  Yes, there
>> was a resolution which I championed which did incorporate "condemn and
>> deplore" language, but (as others have pointed out) that resolution did
>> fail.  The membership exercised its proper right to determine the course 
>> of
>> a resolution.
>> 
>> So, having put that aside, do you believe that the resolution that did 
>> pass
>> was too strongly worded?  I understand you agree with the intent.  I am
>> still curious as to your thoughts about the words "frustration" and "deep
>> disappointment."
>> 
>> Thank you, Ray.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Curtis Chong
>> 
>> 
>> 
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