[gui-talk] Help from Apple Users

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Wed Feb 20 16:46:13 UTC 2013


Ray,

this is all clear now, thank you.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:36:28 -0600, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

>Well, actuallly, with respect to using the voice to control the Mac, it is possible; but, severel of us who have tried it have 
found issues with it and do not consider it ready for prime time so to speak.  As for the length of my message, I was starting and 
stopping the speech dictation at certain points.  Do that, and you can make the message as long as you wish.  Keep in mind the 
fact that the dictation I was using last night was a different function from the dictation of commands for the Mac.  With any 
Apple dictation service, what you say is sent to a server which translates what you say in to text and that text is then sent back 
and dropped in to an edit box where you are focused.  Like I said, the dictation of commands by voice is something some of us 
tried and gave up on fairly quickly.  Sorry.


>Sent from my mac
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

>On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:23 AM, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:

>> Ray,
>> 
>> I have read the MONITOR article and am reasonably familiar with other aspects of the MAC.  I have even used VoiceOver on my 
>> Daughter's old MAC that she has left behind.  It was really the voice input that I specifically needed to understand better.  
You 
>> mentioned that it is limited to 140 characters or so, but your note is more than 140 characters, could you clarify?  Also, can 
the 
>> voice be used to control some functions of the computer as well?  Can the voice be used, for example, to control VoiceOver 
itself?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:47:38 -0600, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Well Steve, I am dictating this message using my voice I'm talking into my MacBook Pro.
>>> Please keep in mind, that I am making no corrections in the text of this message: in order that you can see just how accurate 
it 
>> really is.
>>> Naturally, I am speaking the punctuation as I talk: that way, it is correct. This dictation feature came in with version 10.8 
of 
>> the operating system for the Mac; called Mountain lion. Actually, it is quite easy to set up and use. Keep in mind, however, 
that 
>> what you can say is rather limited. I think maybe you get about 140 characters for dictation section: after that, it stops you.
>> 
>>> I would suggest, that you look at that D Cember 2009 embryo monitor. There is an excellent article in there about the Mac, it 
is 
>> a pretty good summary, if perhaps not quite as complete as I think it should be. Also, if you go to www.BLINDCOOLTECH.com, 
you'll 
>> find some wonderful demonstrations of the Mac there. They are a little old now, but, still good to listen to for the basics. 
Well, 
>> hope that helps.
>> 
>> 
>>> Remember, I am deliberately leaving this text totally uncorrected. There may be a few spelling errors in it, but, I am 
>> purposefully not correcting any mistakes so that you can see how accurate the text actually is.
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:23 PM, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to help a person navigate the complexity of buying a computer and learning to use one for the first time while in 
>> his 70's.  Since he had never used a keyboard, he is somewhat interested in using voice 
>>>> input.  I am fairly familiar with what is available in the Windows world, but am wondering if there are voice input options 
for 
>> the MAC as well.  If it is built in, is it pretty good at generating text for e-mails, for example, 
>>>> knowing that there are always corrections necessary.  I am not certain if there are other advantages I should consider for 
him 
>> with a MAC, either, although certainly VoiceOver would certainly be helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for any help.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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