[gui-talk] Accessible Alternative to MSE
enes
enes.saribas at gmail.com
Fri Oct 18 17:28:22 UTC 2013
hi,
I am using the nvda screen reader
On 10/14/2013 4:59 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> You are talking about Avast? How do you do that? What kind of
> screenreading thing do you use? Mine says absolutely nothing and I am
> using window eyes. Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: enes
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:13 AM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessible Alternative to MSE
>
> hi,
> you can set all shields to ask what to do when threats are found in the
> settings buttons under all the shields
> and those windows are totally accessible
> and the security report can be accessed through the interface
> it also loads in firefox
> and is like a web page
> this is also accessible
> though self protection has to be disabled for avast to expose the gui
> controls to nvda
> On 10/12/2013 4:34 AM, Humberto wrote:
>> This is a very interesting topic, especially when dealing with
>> antivirus programs, and their security behind them, versus the
>> inaccessibility that blind people have to deal with for most of them.
>> I have tried different antimalware solutions for my computers (laptop
>> and desktop), and probably, none of them convince me in the
>> accessibility category. This is especially true as far as their popup
>> messages, not their interfaces, are concerned.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I tried the AVG internet security 2013 free trial, I was able to
>> navigate their user interface quite usably with the JAWS cursor, and
>> I was able to perform functions using the menu bar. However, when I t
>> came time for those popup windows that appear in the notification
>> area, it's where JAWS says only "AVG Internet Security 2013", and
>> nothing else. Of course, my first natural reaction to the
>> inaccessible message is, Oh god, there is malware on my computer! but
>> I discovered since the message was very inaccessible with JAWS 12
>> even with the JAWS cursor, I had to restart my computer and loaded
>> jfw14 and had to wait for the message to display again, if any. When
>> it did come up, I found out, through the tentatively good JAWS OCR,
>> that it was not some warm installed in my system but just a message
>> wanting me to upgrade to a licensed version or let my trial expire.
>>
>> This, pretty much, is the same with AVG basic protection, and most
>> other antivirus programs. I currently use Avast! Free Antivirus on
>> both of my systems, and don't have a problem navigating the GUI with
>> the JAWS cursor except in a few areas, and I have to admit that the
>> log reports that it creates, especially with threat reports, are very
>> inaccessible. The popup windows in the system tray that appear are
>> also not accessible, and I have to use the magical but tentatively
>> good OCR function in JAWS 14 to try to decipher what is going on with
>> my security. (And I say "tentative" because the OCR is always subject
>> to doing or not doing its job and / or not doing it well as I
>> expect.) Sometimes I get update program notifications, other times it
>> is just security reminders like to update my flash.
>>
>> The only thing that Avast does which is really good is make an audio
>> alert for when a threat is found, or when it updates the definitions.
>>
>>
>>
>> But what about taking actions such as removing an infection? This is
>> where I feel like they should be part of the list of software and
>> hardware necessities covered by section 508 and / or the Americans
>> with disabilities act of 1990. I feel like if antivirus companies
>> keep making their products inaccessible, they will undo the efforts
>> of blind advocates and will restore the perception that blind people
>> are not capable of using a computer and therefore cannot manage its
>> security. This is my 12 cents for what it's worth. Take care.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy"
>> <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 5:21 AM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Accessible Alternative to MSE
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Recently, Microsoft created an uproar when it admitted that
>>> Microsoft Security Essentials was not up to snuff and recommended
>>> that users switch to a third-party anti-virus program for better
>>> protection against malware threats. But feedback on other lists
>>> suggests that none of the other free anti-virus programs -AVG, Avast
>>> or Avira-is especially screen reader friendly, and in their most
>>> recent versions, they are apparently inaccessible and thus unusable
>>> altogether. And some of the paid anti-virus programs aren't much
>>> better. Some of them either have inaccessible interfaces or else
>>> require sighted assistance to uninstall or remove or require solving
>>> an image captcha to complete the purchase process that is not
>>> solvbable with Webvisum. So has anyone found an anti-virus program,
>>> preferabley free, that is just as accessible and easy to use as MSE
>>> and that is not a hassle to remove in the event that it doesn't work
>>> out? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
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