[gui-talk] oxymoron

[Steve Jacobson]

Allen,

I may have missed it, but which screen reader are you trying to use.  It is my understanding that all of the 
mainstream screen readers work with Windows 8 using external keyboards, but not all of the touch capabilities have 
been implemented yet, although they will be.  I understand that NVDA and Narrator have done the most with this.  
In general, the keyboard approaches you mention for Apple are third party apps and they did not become available 
immediately, either, and are still evolving.  Am I missing your point?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 2 May 2014 11:54:40 +0000, Hoffman, Allen wrote:

>Sorry if I was unclear with what I'm looking for.  Please identify specific tablet/touch screen keyboard usage 
directions--e.g. use the actual touch screen keyboard, not other touch gestures and external keyboards.  Pointing 
folks to general documentation doesn't help.


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>Documentation for both screen readers.



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>Allen
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>This is great.  Can you Please tell me how to use onscreen keyboard on a
>tablet using either of these products, or point us all to a document that
>does?



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>Both JFW and NVDA have systems for accessing the touch screen in windows 8.



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>Allen
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>Can someone explain why on windows 8 that the touch keyboard is unusable,
>and there is not alternative?  On IOS we continue to hear the challenge of
>using alternative keyboards like fleksy or mbraille for all apps as an
>option is limited because of Apple's app sandboxing/isolation.  While
>windows 8 and 8.1 is not the wild west I don't believe it is sandboxed in
>the same way as IOS is, so what's not happening to provide fleksy or
>mbraille like keyboard functionality as part of a screen reader?  Am I
>missing some piece of windows preventing this?  Am I missing some part of
>our AT producers preventing this?  Someone please enlighten me.
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