[gui-talk] {Spam?} Re: Fwd: more TV providers provide talking menus for blind subscribers
Pamela Dominguez
geodom at optonline.net
Thu Dec 29 02:13:02 UTC 2016
Well, until recently, there was no way for us here to take our business
elsewhere. Now, I was told by somebody here, that I could switch cable
companies if I want to. But before now, this was Cablevision's area, not to
be breached by any other company. Pam.
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From: Mike Arrigo via gui-talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 5:37 PM
To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Mike Arrigo
Subject: [gui-talk] {Spam?} Re: Fwd: more TV providers provide talking menus
for blind subscribers
I am a conservative republican, actually I would probably lean towards
libertarian views, basically I want as little of the government
regulating things as possible, only enough to maintain law and order.
Other than that, let businesses run themselves, if they make bad
choices, than they should face the consequences of those choices
without the government or anyone else bailing them out. But I also want
equal access to products and services. I would rather get this by
convincing companies that universal access is the right thing to do,
there's really nothing but benefits to this approach. Again, no matter
what, some companies will not think it's worth the effort to do this,
and in those cases, I take my business elsewhere.
Original message:
> I would caution against the simple minded approach of claiming that the
> Republicans hate the blind and don’t want accessibility while the
> Democrats love the blind and want it. To my way of thinking, that
> discussion would lead us in to nothing but trouble which we don’t want. My
> way of thinking is as I have stated before: but with this additional
> thought. I will put this in the form of a question. Which do you think
> costs more: pursuation and willful compliance there with or forceful
> regulation? Okay. So we don’t live in an ideal world: and therefore,
> yes, sometimes, the hammer of regulation is necessary. But, consider.
> Surely once the companies see the benefits of actually doing it in
> practice rather than mere theorizing, they will more willingly comply
> because they know that there is a public relations component to this. IF
> you knew of some companies doing this and others not: to whom would you
> give patronage? OF course, the companies providing the accessibility. We
> say we are a small minority: but, let me ask you to think about this. We
> can make a lot of noise about something: and, I maintain that if we make
> a loud enough noise in the right way, they will not be able to ignore us.
> We ourselves may be small in number: but, think about this too. We know
> other people and they know people and they know people…get the point? We
> have a greater impact on this than we might at first suppose.
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Jen via gui-talk <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> I respectfully disagree. I think the ADA fits into this because these
>> companies are getting federal funding, and TV is an auxiliary aid. So
>> President-elect Trump's incoming FCC chair's position wouldn't matter
>> because the ADA won't be repealed. What are everyone's thoughts on this?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
>> Levy via gui-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 6:55 AM
>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
>> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: more TV providers provide talking menus for
>> blind subscribers
>> Well, you can essentially kiss the Telecommunications Accessibility Act
>> goodbye. The current FCC Chairman, Tom Wheeler, will be stepping down on
>> Jan. 20, and his successor, appointed by the incoming president-elect, is
>> likely to favor less government regulation of the airwaves and minimal
>> enforcement of FCC rules, so there will not be any pressure on the cable
>> companies or TV manufacturers to make their products blind accessible.
>> Anyone who believes otherwise is living in a dream world, so unless your
>> cable provider already offers accessible boxes, you will probably have a
>> very long wait to get one. Spectrum Cable, which has been bombarding
>> local TV stations in New York City to introduce itself and proclaim "a
>> new day" for cable TV service, still has absolutely no plans to offer
>> accessible boxes any time soon, and now there will be little pressure on
>> them to do so.
>> Gerald
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Andrews via gui-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:12 PM
>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: David Andrews
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: more TV providers provide talking menus for
>> blind
>> subscribers
>> The area of accessible television is getting more
>> activity of late -- this information may interest you.
>> Dave
>>> From: Ray Foret jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: more TV providors provide talking menus for blind subscribers
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 02:50:28 -0600
>>> To: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> Greetings,
>>> As we all know, the Federal Communications Commission has inacted the
>>> Telecommunications act which requires provision for talking menu and or
>>> talking guide structure for blind subscribers of TV providing services.
>>> The first link is critically important for it leads to a FAQ sheet in
>>> which
>>> there is information for filing complaints if necessary:
>>> <https://www.fcc.gov/television-and-set-top-box-controls-menus-program-guides-factsheet>https://www.fcc.gov/television-and-set-top-box-controls-menus-program-guides-factsheet
>>> Following is a list of TV providers who now provide some kind of audio
>>> or
>>> talking menu structure for blind subscribers. Mostly, these providers
>>> require that the subscriber have the top of the line DVR box for this to
>>> work. I must admit that I was quite surprised to see the TV satellite
>>> companies on board.
>>> Comcast:
>>> <http://www.comcast.com/accessibility>www.comcast.com/accessibility
>>> Tivo:
>>> <https://www.tivo.com/accessibility>https://www.tivo.com/accessibility
>>> Spectrum, (formerly Charter)
>>> <http://www.charter.net/support/accessibility/talking-guide-spectrum-guide-support/>http://www.charter.net/support/accessibility/talking-guide-spectrum-guide-support/
>>> Direct TV:
>>> <https://support.directv.com/equipment/talking-guide-faq>https://support.directv.com/equipment/talking-guide-faq
>>> and Dish Network:
>>> <https://www.dish.com/accessibility/>https://www.dish.com/accessibility/
>>> Verizon Fios:
>>> <http://www.verizon.com/about/accessibility/text-speech?pos=1>http://www.verizon.com/about/accessibility/text-speech?pos=1
>>> Of course, Apple TV is accessible and that’s always a plus too.
>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> blind
>>> built-in
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
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