[gui-talk] seeking advice on laptops and windows 7 vs. 10 and JAWS 17 vs. 18 etc.

Bruce Naccari bnaccari at gmail.com
Sat Dec 9 19:25:10 UTC 2017


 Is there a keystroke or other  way to start narrator running   when a
new Windows  device is started up and maybe onl a silent  activation
or start up screen is being displayed so as to from that very first
step have access  via sound? Or does one need ot have  a sighted asst.
activate the running of narrator  first?

On 12/8/17, David Goldfield via gui-talk <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> This is correct. While my intent is not to turn this thread into a Mac vs.
> Windows debate I would like to add that, with Windows 10, it is also
> possible to use Windows out of the box as well with Narrator. While Narrator
> may not be quite as powerful as VoiceOver, NVDA is also a free screen
> reader, with four updates per year.
>
>
> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
> WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
> On 12/8/2017 12:39 PM, Mike Arrigo via gui-talk wrote:
> Have you considered a mac? Apple makes some great laptops, and they are
> accessible out of the box. And, no need to continuously pay to upgrade your
> screen reader.
> Original message:
> Greetings:
>
> If you are buying a completely new system, I am strongly recommending
> Windows 10 with JAWS 2018, which is the most current version out there. It
> is almost impossible now to get anything running Windows 7 these days.
>
> Like Louis, I like the Logitech K360 wireless keyboard because it does have
> a numeric keypad, making it quite usable with JAWS.
>
> If you haven't done so already, convert your JAWS license to that of a home
> user, thus reducing the biennial maintenance fee to $120.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Naccari via gui-talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:49 PM
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> Cc: Bruce Naccari <bnaccari at gmail.com><mailto:bnaccari at gmail.com>
> Subject: [gui-talk] seeking advice on laptops and windows 7 vs. 10 and JAWS
> 17 vs. 18 etc.
>
> Wrestling with a seemingly moribund  2015 HP PC made accessible with JAWS
> 17
>  and Open Book 8 or 9 in the Windows 7 operating system I am seeking
>  advice on choosing a suitable affordable laptop I can use with JAWS 17
>  and my Open Book and    my  HP Jet something HP 4____ printer/scanner
>  and my Belkin internet router and  easy connectability to  network
>  wifi outside my home  :a) a one  with Windows 7 to be used with JAWS
> 17 and then early next year I hope an upgrade to JAWS 18 OR b) one new
> with Windows 10 ideal for use with JAWS 18 that meets the above
> description---I  Not asking anyone to try to push any particular
> laptops but I am seeking this advice  as part of my decision  as to
> whether and when I can afford a new laptop or refurbished laptop  and
> be able to soon upgrade to the latest JAWS for home use. Also 1.If I
> use a usb connected  external standard keyboard  to operate the JAWS
> loaded laptop do I set the option  for   laptop or for a standard
> keyboard in the JAWS menu? 2. I now use JAWS 17 and Open Book--but
> does my JAWS 17 include  the same capabilities for ocr scanning to
> speech as does the Open Book?if so where in JAWS do I find that? How
> do I use JAWS 17 to scan a print page and turn it into  speech? 3.
> Will my I hope imminent upgrade JAWS 18 include such ocr scanning to
> speech faculties  like those in Open Book?.I am not a complete
> ignoramus but I am not very
>  proficient  or literate in  computer usage or  accessible  software
> and terminology either,just  an
>  elder   without any special tech  knowledge although  the experience
>  of using  a pc with the above kinds of software   off and on the
>  internet since 2004.
>  Can y'all  please inform me of some ideal  or optimal for JAWS users
> affordable
>  laptops as described above and  without a crowded cramped
>  keyboard,and with a keyboard as much like a standard external keyboard
>  as possible ,and that on a laptop capable of --with more hthan one usb
>  port--capable of being operated using a standard American English
>  external keyboard via a usb connector cable? Will my JAWS 17 work and
>  will my Open Book work in Windows 10 in a satisfactory way not likely
>  to frustrate    a grizzled someone like me? I would  very much appreciate
> any
>  guidance y'all are able to offer,or any pointers to  where or who
> that might give guidance  to me.  This will influence my portable
> hardware JAWS acquisition decisions.   And does anyone see any
> advantage to the  current  PACMate over a JAWS-using laptop?Merci
> beaucoup..
>
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