[gui-talk] If you are on MediCare or MediCade, expect your insurance premiums to double

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House Speaker Paul Ryan wants to cut Medicare, punishing a key part of the
GOP’s base – older Americans
Lloyd Green 
By Lloyd Green 
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House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and the Republican Party seem intent on
punishing a key part of their base – older Americans.
Ryan 
announced Wednesday 
 that in 2018 the Republicans will be ready to put Medicare on the chopping
block to pay for tax cuts. And those tax cuts are aimed at 
corporations and the rich 
 – not the middle-class.
“We’re going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is
how you tackle the debt and the deficit,” Ryan said. But a good chunk of the
future deficit and debt would be fueled by separate tax-cutting bills
approved by the House and Senate. The two houses still need to reach
agreement on a single piece of legislation for it to go to President Trump
for his signature.
As usual, the numbers tell the story. In 2016, older voters who were the
most likely to look to Medicare to pay for their health care in retirement
put Donald Trump over the top. According to Election Day 
exit polls 
, he garnered an almost 20-point margin among white seniors, a 28 percent
lead among whites voters ages 45 to 64, and a historic 37-point victory with
white working-class voters.
But now the GOP seeks to punish the very folks who brought them to power.
Unlike food stamps and welfare, Medicare and Social Security are benefits
that working Americans have earned over a lifetime of steady, reliable, and
conscientious work. They paid for these benefit with weekly payroll
deductions.
In other words, Social Security and Medicare are not welfare. Working
Americans shouldn’t be treated as moochers. As Trump 
declared 
 back in 2013: “It’s not unreasonable for people who paid into a system for
decades to expect to get their money’s worth – that’s not an ‘entitlement,’
that’s honoring a deal.” 
For Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., targeting earned
entitlements like Social Security and Medicare is nothing new.
Fresh off his 2012 loss as the Republican vice presidential candidate, Ryan
– then chairman of the House Budget Committee – unsuccessfully pressed the
idea of restricting Medicare to Americans who were already at least 56, and
giving younger workers 
 vouchers 
when they hit retirement.
In the aftermath of recapturing the Senate in 2014 and on the eve of the
2015 State of the Union address, 
McConnell beseeched 
 President Obama to “allow us to save and strengthen Medicare” and to
“cooperate with both parties to save Social Security.” In other words, make
sure both parties have their hands on the dagger and no one will get blamed.
In case Ryan and McConnell forgot, the 
sole source of income 
 for most Americans now turning 65 is their monthly Social Security check,
which averages a little more than $1,200 – before paying $100 a month for
Medicare Part B. And the GOP is now a predominately 
working class party 
, with voters relying on their earned retirement benefits.  
Indeed, among whites without a college degree, the mortality rate is rising.
As death from heart disease and cancer have slowed, drug overdoses, suicide
and alcoholism 
have increased 
.
Moreover, Alzheimer’s disease looms as a disaster for all – a development
that stands ready to blow the lid off of any budget. Already, Japan is
confronting a 
“pandemic of dementia” 
 and there is no reason to believe that America won’t be next.
Which leaves us with President Trump. As a candidate, he took a “you paid
for it, it’s yours” approach to older Americans. In May 2015, 
Trump tweeted 
: “I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no
cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.”
But stating is one thing. Doing something is another.
Now Paul Ryan is sounding like a guy who thinks he’s convinced the president
to take a 180- degree turn on Medicare. Ryan has let the world know that he
has been speaking privately with  President Trump, and that the president
has started to cotton to the idea of cutting entitlements.
As Ryan 
framed things 
: “I think the president is understanding choice and competition works
everywhere, especially in Medicare.” 
Politically, this looks like a play that the Republican cannot afford as
they head into the 2018 midterm elections. If the recent Virginia governor’s
race and the latest polls tell us anything, it is that younger voters don’t
support the GOP, and that the Republicans need older voters if they are
retain their grip on Congress.
This past November in Virginia, Ralph Northam – the successful Democratic
candidate for governor – 
outran Hillary Clinton 
 by 15 points among voters under 30, and by 8 percent among the 30-44 set.
By contrast, Ed Gillespie, the Republican, barely matched Trump’s margins
with older Virginians and 
lost by 9 percent 
.
Although GOP congressional leaders Ryan and McConnell seem intent on
pleasing Republican donors. But they need to remember that politics is about
winning – not sticking it to your base.
Creating a Republican version of “death panels” by cutting Medicare and
Social Security is a surefire way to hand Democrats control of Congress in
the 2018 elections and turn the congressional GOP into the minority party.
Lloyd Green was staff secretary to the George H.W. Bush campaign’s Middle
East Policy Group in 1988 and served in the Department of Justice between
1990 and 1992.
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] If you are on MediCare or MediCade, expect your
insurance premiums to double

Paul Ryan never said your Medicare and Medicaid premiums would double. He
did say that they would be working on reforms in 2018. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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insurance premiums to double

  Since when was Paul Ryan a Democrat?

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  insurance premiums to double

  Don't believe everything the democrats are saying.
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    From: Hawkeye via gui-talk 
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    Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:19 AM
    Subject: [gui-talk] If you are on MediCare or MediCade, expect your
  insurance premiums to double

    Paul Ryan intends to make up the $1.5 trillion deficit created by the
GOP
    Tax Act by cutting back payments through MediCare and MediCade. Thus
less
    medical professionals will accept MediCare or MediCade. This will
further
    decrease the amount paid out by the government. Or if the medical
    professional does accept the reduced MediCare amount, expect your co-pay
  go
    up. To make up for the additional co-pay charged, your insurance company
    will have to increase the premiums.

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