[humanser] A question for the group

Tue Feb 24 11:46:16 UTC 2009

Well then, interesting that so many blind people have already successfully 
done it? If you feel that uncomfortable about it, I hope you ask to be 
excused. Jan

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From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
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>I guess that it is simply up  to the conscience of the blind individual.  I
> there is one chance in a thousand that I would miss something important, I
> simply would not want to let another person's liberty or life ride on my
> need to prove that a blind person can do anything that a sighted one can.
> I'm back to the cab driver and neurosurgeon.  NFB demagoguery   is simply
> wrong.  There are some things that we simply can not do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jan Bailey
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [humanser] A question for the group
>
> I think all of the visual evidence could be described. I've read a lot of
> court cases, and that visual evidence just backs up the witnesses oral
> testimony. Then when the jury gets the case there is a lot of chance for
> discussion and going over the evidence, so I wouldn't feel uncomfortable
> about having visual evidence, because I would ask any questions I would
> have, and go over the testimony of the witness. A witness always has to
> testify and explain the evidence that is offered by either attorney.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
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>
>> J.D.
>> As I think about it, there can be much more than pictures.  Depending on
>> the
>> case there can  be an array of visual evidence.  On TV attorneys seem to
>> be
>> very proud of their charts, time lines and other visual charts and
>> displays.
>> I don't feel in good conscience that I could be as good a juror as I 
>> would
>> be sighted.  A great deal depends upon the case, of course.  I would 
>> hate,
>> however, to make a sociological point with someone's life or freedom
>> resting
>> in the balance.  There are issues more important than how a small 
>> segment,
>> in a rare circumstance views the blind.  Would you want a blind cab 
>> driver
>> or neurosurgeon?  Would you insist on your guide dog's right to go into
>> the
>> operating room.  Most of my dentists and periodontists  as well as
>> internists have let my dog come with me.  A number of them, dog lovers,
>> appreciated it.  I did, however,  have one dentist who didn't want the 
>> dog
>> in the room.  He wore a gown, mask, goggles and head gear.  I think that
>> he
>> was afraid of getting a faceful of HIV or Hep C.  I don't blame him.  New
>> Haven has the highest per capita rate of AIDs in the country and he had 
>> an
>> inner city practice.  It's a complicated issue and good judgment must
>> dictate the parameters, not dogmatic adherence to our rights.  The latter
>> can make us look celf centered and foolish.
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:08 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [humanser] A question for the group
>>
>> You may be waiting a very long time.  As a social worker, or other mental
>> health professional prosecutors don't want us on the jury.  They think
>> that
>> we are too lenient and excuse antisocial behavior on the grounds that the
>> perpetrator is only a sad victim of his deprived childhood.
>> Jeff Schwartz, PhD.
>> Clinical Psychologist
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of JD Townsend
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:07 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [humanser] A question for the group
>>
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I've been waiting a long time for a call to jury duty with no letter.  In
>> Florida the jury rolls are determined by driver licenses, so it makes me
>> wonder if my non-driver license may not find it's way into the selection
>> box.  Like Melissa I've known blind friends who have serve.
>>
>> Pictures play only a small part in the vast majority of cases.  And, 
>> blind
>> jurors don't fall into the trap of the defendant who looks guilty.
>> Listening is the biggest skill for jurors and I can say with some pride
>> that
>>
>> many blind folks can give the light dependent a run for their money on
>> listening skills.
>>
>>
>> JD Townsend, LCSW
>> Daytona Beach, Florida, Earth, Sol System
>> Helping the light dependent to see.
>>
>>
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