[humanser] NCE Question

Thu Aug 1 01:15:17 UTC 2013

Serena,
aThe challenges of having a reader who may be less than literate in the
discipline and, consequently, may jeopardize successful completion has been
my experience in the past. Having undergone 7+ years of postgraduate studies
to earn the doctorate, I, like most of the professionals on this list am
troubled by this barrier. It sounds as if many of these capstone exams that
afford us licensure or certification, credentials to practice, are being
hindered to keep us out of the practice.

-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Serena
Cucco
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Human Services Mailing List
Subject: Re: [humanser] NCE Question

Hi all,

When I took the licensed social worker exam in NJ, I was lucky enough to
take the exam in Braille using a reader/scribe to input my answers into the
computer.  When I went over the test the 2nd time, I had the reader read me
the questions to make it faster.  She didn't have any familiarity with the
material and had trouble pronouncing some of the social work terms.
Luckily, since I was also following along in Braille, I was able to figure
out the word she meant and that it was or wasn't the choice I wanted.  I
passed!  I certainly understand the NFB's battle to make all electronic
materials accessible to blind test takers.  Since I knew this was going to
be my last exam, since I know I'm not going to get my doctorate, however, I
decided to accept the reader/scribe accommodation.  I felt quite fortunate
to receive the exam in Braille, so was satisfied.

Serena

On 7/31/13, MARY CHAPPELL <MTC5 at cox.net> wrote:
> Darla,
> I appreciate the reality testing and I truly have the awareness and 
> know that I must do what is necessary to sustain my family's well being.
> Mary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla 
> Rogers
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:29 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] NCE Question
>
> Dear Mary,
>
> 	You have to do what you have to do to keep yourself fed and clothed;

> I wonder if it's too much too hope that the fact the BAR exam has been 
> changed will help in our fight to have mental health professional 
> exams in alternate formats.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of MARY 
> CHAPPELL
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:07 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] NCE Question
>
> Darla,
> In speaking with Mr. Brown in the past, I learned that legal 
> proceedings to insure that lawyers who sit for the bar could use 
> screen reading software for the exam has been legally secured. I am 
> certain that this was a long and arduous process; however, if it can 
> change what it means to be blind, I want to be a part of the fight. I 
> will lose a significant amount if this is not realized by December and 
> I will have to assess as the time comes nearer.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla 
> Rogers
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:51 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Cc: 'Charles Brown'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] NCE Question
>
> Quite right, Mary; this disregard and paternalism and ignorance has 
> gone on way long enough; maybe Mr. Brown can tell us if anyone has won 
> a lawsuit against a testing entity.  It seems I remember, at least 
> one, but I am not even sure how to Google it.
> 	How dare they keep you from retaining employment; it would be neat
to 
> see a class of folks who want to test sued; litigation, as you know, 
> takes time, but you could probably sue for lost potential 
> wages--actually in your case--they would be real wages.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of MARY 
> CHAPPELL
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:44 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Cc: 'Charles Brown'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] NCE Question
>
> Jeannie,
> I am dealing with this dilemma at this exact moment. Trying to sit for 
> my EPPP licensure so I can ethically practice, move into additional 
> private practice as I have many referrals who are awaiting the 
> occurrence and, I must have the necessary licensure to stay gainfully 
> employed where I have been for 5 years. Like you I have been told the 
> there is only a computerized version; I have been denied access using 
> screen reading software. The state agency has agreed to provide the 
> software, load it at the proctor site for the exam, and offer trouble 
> shooting support and, yet, the licensing board has denied the 
> accommodation. They have offered large print or reader and scribe. As 
> a doctorate in psychology I was insensed by the dismissive tone and 
> disregard and I have asked that the Federation aid me in resolving 
> this issue. Obviously, this delays this necessary process but, I feel 
> I must fight. I am copying Charlie Brown of the Federation in hopes 
> that he may speak to this question.
> I hope our collective voices will enact change mechanisms so that we 
> may function wholly as the mental health professionals that we are.
> Genuinely,
> Mary Tatum Chappell, Psy. D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> JMassay
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:48 PM
> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [humanser] NCE Question
>
> Hello all-
>
> It's great to see the recent activity on the list! I have a quick 
> question for anyone who has recently or is getting ready to take the 
> NCE Exam , or well, actually, any other Masters level licensure 
> examination. I have been told that , although the exam is in an 
> electronic format, I will have to take it with a scribe and a reader 
> in a private room. I would like to ask everyone's thoughts on this issue
and learn from your experiences as well.
>
> I appreciate any feedback that you can give me and anyone else 
> preparing to take a certification or licensure exam in the mental health
field.
>
> Jeannie
>
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