[humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 05:04:34 UTC 2013 

Hi Jonathan,

	Well, I won't be a shoulder here, but I have had to move more than I
liked to accept a position, and the NFB members I have met here are pretty
awesome folks.
	The Massachusetts Commission for the Blind was advertising jobs
awhile back, too, and if I didn't own my own home, might have considered it.
Darla


-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Alpert
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:01 PM
To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Dear Darla:
I greatly appreciate your assist, however, I live in the Boston MA area and
don't know anyone in the KC area. If I did, I would consider it. Thank you
for your help.



-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
Rogers
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:34 PM
To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Dear Jonathan,

	Missouri (Kansas City) has 2 VR counselor positions open with
Rehabilitation Services for the Blind; you have your masters, and you don't
need to be CRC certified to apply.
	If you are at all interested, drop me a line at

djrogers0628 at gmail.com

with your Email address, and I'll forward you the notice.
Darla


-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Alpert
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Hi Ashley

I have a Master's degree in mental health counseling and a CAGS as well. I
have 10 years of experience and yet, I can not find fulltime employment.

I currently work for a large agency and they require a driver's license. I
find this to be true for a great number of agencies. 
I currently work for a group home within the agency. I cannot give out
medications as I would not be able to identify them.  I also am not able to
do much with a printed paper, whether it is a doctor's note or just a
general form. 

In resent months, I have entertained the idea of trying  to try my hands in
a different field but I have no idea what I would do. It's just very
frustrating.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
Bramlett
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Hi Jonathan,
What is your education in? I hope you find employment.
Its discouraging to hear those with masters out of work. Perhaps, you are
one of them?
Its hard now a days, too much cut backs.
I'd encourage you to network. Join a professional association and go to
conferences of your field.
Hope something comes up for you.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Alpert
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

I have had much difficulty in obtaining fulltime employment despite all my
education and experience. I started to write a negative response , but don't
want to discurrage anyone.

Jonathan


-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
williams
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

I agree with that.  This is not trying to tell anyone else how to conduct
their job interview, but you have to make the employer comfortable with you,
and sometimes, that is explaining to thme how a job can be done using
assistive technology.  You don't have to reveal the whole thing, and make it
a grand show, but describing the tools of blindness pertaining to the job is
something that an interviewee should do as a basic overview.

-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Human Services Mailing List; Carly Mihalakis
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Carlee,

I understand your point.  In my opinion, when I go for an interview and the
employer knows nothing about my blindness, I am sure he/she is going to
wonder how paperwork and so on will get done.  I think that telling the
employer one's abilities, if you use cognitive theory, etc. is important.
Secondary to that, I believe it is okay for me to give information as to how
certain parts of the job can be handled by me.  Blindness is not the same
type of characteristic as hair color, for example.


Sandy

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From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:58 AM
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<humanser at nfbnet.org>; "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

> Good morning,
>
> It would seem to me that, inflicting a shocked state on to someone who 
> interacts with you most likely will reduce conditions to that which 
> many blind people resent, being seeing only for blindness and not for 
> the flaming and colorful people, we often are.
> I believe in blindness being so mythic amongst sighted cultures that, 
> among the things of which we are without is a presumed entitlement of 
> anonymity, blindness forever being a presence I came to know in 
> deviance class, a master status or the single characteristic beyond 
> anything else by which you are identified I.E Black president, gay
teacher, deaf Ms.
> America among many others. It could be a sort of game.
>
> So, I do digress, it seems honest just to tell a potential employer 
> this identifying characteristic of your's. After all, would you have a 
> problem disclosing that you might be a blond, a redhead or Chinese?
> for today, Car
>
> .
>
>
>>Sandy
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>From: "JD Townsend" <43210 at Bellsouth.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:29 PM
>>To: "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sadly some folks are prejudice on the outset.  I took a 2 hour trip 
>>>for an interview once and the interviewer told me at the door that 
>>>the job was too intense for me, without even letting me speak;  seems 
>>>my white cane said all she wanted to know.
>>>
>>>I learned after many interviews that I had to compete not as a blind 
>>>applicant, but as the best applicant.  Some people tell an 
>>>interviewer on the outset that they are blind or visually impaired, 
>>>but I have never seen the wisdom in this.  I find that the initial 
>>>hand-shake and the walk down long corridors to the interview room, 
>>>finding my seat and addressing the real issues of the job have served 
>>>me well.  When I have taken this attitude, ignoring my blindness as 
>>>an issue, the interviews have gone much better.  I tell the 
>>>interviewer that I dislike paperwork, but that I sleep much better 
>>>when it is up to date;  should they ask me how I do it I say that I 
>>>have PC add-ons that have served me well in the past and that it 
>>>should
not be a problem with whatever system they are using.
>>>Should they ask about transportation I tell them that I got here on 
>>>my own and on time and that I should have no problem.  It isn't my 
>>>job to explain about adaptive equipment or transportation, just that 
>>>I can do the job, then I re-focus on my strengths as a clinical 
>>>social worker and how I might fit my skills into serving the agency.
>>>
>>>If we allow disability or adaptations to become a focus of an 
>>>interview instead of our skills and work ethic we have no chance for
employment.
>>>
>>>Just my opinion, sorry for the lecture.
>>>
>>>JD
>>>
>>>
>>>
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