[humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Fri Dec 27 23:26:56 UTC 2013

Hey Jonathan,

Darla gave me an idea.  My thinking is that there may be a possibility of 
doing VR counseling work in our state of MA like with Mass. Rehab, or with 
Mass. Commission for the Blind.  That's not crossed my mind because I 
figured their folks, at least the blindness agency, needed to be certified 
in rehab.  While I took some undergrad rehab classes, I didn't stay with it. 
Just a thought.  I do remember years past taking a counseling civil service 
test for Mass. Rehab and I qualified for Counselor I, maybe Counselor II. I 
I had a Bachelor's.  I got an interview, and was told they would hire the 
woman  already there who now had taken the test first time offered after her 
employment.  I did interview at Commission for Blind and the man was taking 
back someone who had worked there previously.  This would have been VR with 
Bachelor's.  After that time, though, someone said the person rehired now 
had to obtain a Master's, so she did get that.

Sandy

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From: "Jonathan Alpert" <jna3434 at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 12:01 AM
To: "'Human Services Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

> Dear Darla:
> I greatly appreciate your assist, however, I live in the Boston MA area 
> and
> don't know anyone in the KC area. If I did, I would consider it. Thank you
> for your help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
> Rogers
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:34 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Dear Jonathan,
>
> Missouri (Kansas City) has 2 VR counselor positions open with
> Rehabilitation Services for the Blind; you have your masters, and you 
> don't
> need to be CRC certified to apply.
> If you are at all interested, drop me a line at
>
> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>
> with your Email address, and I'll forward you the notice.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Alpert
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:58 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Hi Ashley
>
> I have a Master's degree in mental health counseling and a CAGS as well. I
> have 10 years of experience and yet, I can not find fulltime employment.
>
> I currently work for a large agency and they require a driver's license. I
> find this to be true for a great number of agencies.
> I currently work for a group home within the agency. I cannot give out
> medications as I would not be able to identify them.  I also am not able 
> to
> do much with a printed paper, whether it is a doctor's note or just a
> general form.
>
> In resent months, I have entertained the idea of trying  to try my hands 
> in
> a different field but I have no idea what I would do. It's just very
> frustrating.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
> Bramlett
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:28 PM
> To: Human Services Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Hi Jonathan,
> What is your education in? I hope you find employment.
> Its discouraging to hear those with masters out of work. Perhaps, you are
> one of them?
> Its hard now a days, too much cut backs.
> I'd encourage you to network. Join a professional association and go to
> conferences of your field.
> Hope something comes up for you.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Alpert
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:16 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> I have had much difficulty in obtaining fulltime employment despite all my
> education and experience. I started to write a negative response , but 
> don't
> want to discurrage anyone.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
> williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:41 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> I agree with that.  This is not trying to tell anyone else how to conduct
> their job interview, but you have to make the employer comfortable with 
> you,
> and sometimes, that is explaining to thme how a job can be done using
> assistive technology.  You don't have to reveal the whole thing, and make 
> it
> a grand show, but describing the tools of blindness pertaining to the job 
> is
> something that an interviewee should do as a basic overview.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: Human Services Mailing List; Carly Mihalakis
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Carlee,
>
> I understand your point.  In my opinion, when I go for an interview and 
> the
> employer knows nothing about my blindness, I am sure he/she is going to
> wonder how paperwork and so on will get done.  I think that telling the
> employer one's abilities, if you use cognitive theory, etc. is important.
> Secondary to that, I believe it is okay for me to give information as to 
> how
> certain parts of the job can be handled by me.  Blindness is not the same
> type of characteristic as hair color, for example.
>
>
> Sandy
>
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> From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:58 AM
> To: "Sandy" <sandraburgess at msn.com>; "Human Services Mailing List"
> <humanser at nfbnet.org>; "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> It would seem to me that, inflicting a shocked state on to someone who
>> interacts with you most likely will reduce conditions to that which
>> many blind people resent, being seeing only for blindness and not for
>> the flaming and colorful people, we often are.
>> I believe in blindness being so mythic amongst sighted cultures that,
>> among the things of which we are without is a presumed entitlement of
>> anonymity, blindness forever being a presence I came to know in
>> deviance class, a master status or the single characteristic beyond
>> anything else by which you are identified I.E Black president, gay
> teacher, deaf Ms.
>> America among many others. It could be a sort of game.
>>
>> So, I do digress, it seems honest just to tell a potential employer
>> this identifying characteristic of your's. After all, would you have a
>> problem disclosing that you might be a blond, a redhead or Chinese?
>> for today, Car
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>>Sandy
>>>
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>>>From: "JD Townsend" <43210 at Bellsouth.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:29 PM
>>>To: "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sadly some folks are prejudice on the outset.  I took a 2 hour trip
>>>>for an interview once and the interviewer told me at the door that
>>>>the job was too intense for me, without even letting me speak;  seems
>>>>my white cane said all she wanted to know.
>>>>
>>>>I learned after many interviews that I had to compete not as a blind
>>>>applicant, but as the best applicant.  Some people tell an
>>>>interviewer on the outset that they are blind or visually impaired,
>>>>but I have never seen the wisdom in this.  I find that the initial
>>>>hand-shake and the walk down long corridors to the interview room,
>>>>finding my seat and addressing the real issues of the job have served
>>>>me well.  When I have taken this attitude, ignoring my blindness as
>>>>an issue, the interviews have gone much better.  I tell the
>>>>interviewer that I dislike paperwork, but that I sleep much better
>>>>when it is up to date;  should they ask me how I do it I say that I
>>>>have PC add-ons that have served me well in the past and that it
>>>>should
> not be a problem with whatever system they are using.
>>>>Should they ask about transportation I tell them that I got here on
>>>>my own and on time and that I should have no problem.  It isn't my
>>>>job to explain about adaptive equipment or transportation, just that
>>>>I can do the job, then I re-focus on my strengths as a clinical
>>>>social worker and how I might fit my skills into serving the agency.
>>>>
>>>>If we allow disability or adaptations to become a focus of an
>>>>interview instead of our skills and work ethic we have no chance for
> employment.
>>>>
>>>>Just my opinion, sorry for the lecture.
>>>>
>>>>JD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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