[humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 28 02:23:15 UTC 2013 

Hi Justin,

	If you get a good job description--despite what it does or does not
say--sometimes, you can figure out, for yourself, if driving is an essential
function of the job, and some employers will help with a driver; some will
not.
Darla


-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
williams
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

I've noticed this theme of drivers license.  While it seems as if some of us
have acquired such jobs, several others have encountered this as a barrier.
We must collectively come up with ways to surmount it.

-----Original Message-----
From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 6:31 PM
To: Human Services Mailing List
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

I also do own a small home that I am slowly downsizing from my family who
lived years in it and have passed.

Jonathan, I believe the Mass. Commission wants driver's license.  At one
time, I had a blind counselor who was driven to clients' home by a sighted
woman.  The blindness agency in CT, as far as I know, still uses some
drivers.  Anyway, we seem to need to work around this driver license
requirement in a bunch of job placements.


Sandy

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From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 12:04 AM
To: "'Human Services Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Well, I won't be a shoulder here, but I have had to move more than I 
> liked to accept a position, and the NFB members I have met here are 
> pretty awesome folks.
> The Massachusetts Commission for the Blind was advertising jobs awhile 
> back, too, and if I didn't own my own home, might have considered it.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Alpert
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:01 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Dear Darla:
> I greatly appreciate your assist, however, I live in the Boston MA 
> area and don't know anyone in the KC area. If I did, I would consider 
> it. Thank you for your help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla 
> Rogers
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:34 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Dear Jonathan,
>
> Missouri (Kansas City) has 2 VR counselor positions open with 
> Rehabilitation Services for the Blind; you have your masters, and you 
> don't need to be CRC certified to apply.
> If you are at all interested, drop me a line at
>
> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>
> with your Email address, and I'll forward you the notice.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Alpert
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:58 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Hi Ashley
>
> I have a Master's degree in mental health counseling and a CAGS as 
> well. I have 10 years of experience and yet, I can not find fulltime
employment.
>
> I currently work for a large agency and they require a driver's 
> license. I find this to be true for a great number of agencies.
> I currently work for a group home within the agency. I cannot give out 
> medications as I would not be able to identify them.  I also am not 
> able to do much with a printed paper, whether it is a doctor's note or 
> just a general form.
>
> In resent months, I have entertained the idea of trying  to try my 
> hands in a different field but I have no idea what I would do. It's 
> just very frustrating.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:28 PM
> To: Human Services Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Hi Jonathan,
> What is your education in? I hope you find employment.
> Its discouraging to hear those with masters out of work. Perhaps, you 
> are one of them?
> Its hard now a days, too much cut backs.
> I'd encourage you to network. Join a professional association and go 
> to conferences of your field.
> Hope something comes up for you.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Alpert
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:16 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> I have had much difficulty in obtaining fulltime employment despite 
> all my education and experience. I started to write a negative 
> response , but don't want to discurrage anyone.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> justin williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:41 PM
> To: 'Human Services Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> I agree with that.  This is not trying to tell anyone else how to 
> conduct their job interview, but you have to make the employer 
> comfortable with you, and sometimes, that is explaining to thme how a 
> job can be done using assistive technology.  You don't have to reveal 
> the whole thing, and make it a grand show, but describing the tools of 
> blindness pertaining to the job is something that an interviewee 
> should do as a basic overview.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: Human Services Mailing List; Carly Mihalakis
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Carlee,
>
> I understand your point.  In my opinion, when I go for an interview 
> and the employer knows nothing about my blindness, I am sure he/she is 
> going to wonder how paperwork and so on will get done.  I think that 
> telling the employer one's abilities, if you use cognitive theory, 
> etc. is important.
> Secondary to that, I believe it is okay for me to give information as 
> to how certain parts of the job can be handled by me.  Blindness is 
> not the same type of characteristic as hair color, for example.
>
>
> Sandy
>
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> From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:58 AM
> To: "Sandy" <sandraburgess at msn.com>; "Human Services Mailing List"
> <humanser at nfbnet.org>; "Human Services Mailing List" 
> <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> It would seem to me that, inflicting a shocked state on to someone 
>> who interacts with you most likely will reduce conditions to that 
>> which many blind people resent, being seeing only for blindness and 
>> not for the flaming and colorful people, we often are.
>> I believe in blindness being so mythic amongst sighted cultures that, 
>> among the things of which we are without is a presumed entitlement of 
>> anonymity, blindness forever being a presence I came to know in 
>> deviance class, a master status or the single characteristic beyond 
>> anything else by which you are identified I.E Black president, gay
> teacher, deaf Ms.
>> America among many others. It could be a sort of game.
>>
>> So, I do digress, it seems honest just to tell a potential employer 
>> this identifying characteristic of your's. After all, would you have 
>> a problem disclosing that you might be a blond, a redhead or Chinese?
>> for today, Car
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>>Sandy
>>>
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>>>From: "JD Townsend" <43210 at Bellsouth.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:29 PM
>>>To: "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sadly some folks are prejudice on the outset.  I took a 2 hour trip 
>>>>for an interview once and the interviewer told me at the door that 
>>>>the job was too intense for me, without even letting me speak; seems 
>>>>my white cane said all she wanted to know.
>>>>
>>>>I learned after many interviews that I had to compete not as a blind 
>>>>applicant, but as the best applicant.  Some people tell an 
>>>>interviewer on the outset that they are blind or visually impaired, 
>>>>but I have never seen the wisdom in this.  I find that the initial 
>>>>hand-shake and the walk down long corridors to the interview room, 
>>>>finding my seat and addressing the real issues of the job have 
>>>>served me well.  When I have taken this attitude, ignoring my 
>>>>blindness as an issue, the interviews have gone much better.  I tell 
>>>>the interviewer that I dislike paperwork, but that I sleep much 
>>>>better when it is up to date;  should they ask me how I do it I say 
>>>>that I have PC add-ons that have served me well in the past and that 
>>>>it should
> not be a problem with whatever system they are using.
>>>>Should they ask about transportation I tell them that I got here on 
>>>>my own and on time and that I should have no problem.  It isn't my 
>>>>job to explain about adaptive equipment or transportation, just that 
>>>>I can do the job, then I re-focus on my strengths as a clinical 
>>>>social worker and how I might fit my skills into serving the agency.
>>>>
>>>>If we allow disability or adaptations to become a focus of an 
>>>>interview instead of our skills and work ethic we have no chance for
> employment.
>>>>
>>>>Just my opinion, sorry for the lecture.
>>>>
>>>>JD
>>>>
>>>>
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