[humanser] need your input

Tue May 26 20:26:40 UTC 2015

Serena,

The PC cursor is used the majority of the time. The JAWS cursor can be used 
in dialogue boxes that you can't read in the standard PC cursor mode. A 
dialogue box is one of those messages that sometimes ask you if you want to 
do something and you have to click yes or no.  I've seen some forms online 
where you do better by using the Jaws cursor, and perhaps that is the case 
for the form that was mentioned to start this thread. The Jaws cursor is 
like a mouse you can click on things by pressing the /button and the * 
button on your num key pad. The / key is to left click and the * is to right 
click. On some websites the buttons and/or links are not labeled correctly 
and so you can't press enter to activate the item then you could switch to 
jaws cursor and arrow down to the button/link and when you are on the word 
where the link/button should be press the / key to left click on that item. 
Note that when in Jaws cursor mode you don't navigate by using tab but 
rather you have to arrow where ever you want to go (smile). It's a bit of a 
pain, but if that's what we have to do then I guess we have to. Hopefully, 
you understand this rambling of mine.
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From: "Serena Cucco via humanser" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:35 PM
To: "Human Services Division Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Serena Cucco" <serena.c.cucco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [humanser] need your input

> I use the PC cursor all the time.  Might that be part of the problem?
> When are some good times to use the Jaws cursor?
>
> Thanks,
> Serena
>
> On 5/26/15, Michael Abell via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello Serena,
>> The easiest way that I have found is that when JAWS tells you that
>> you are at an edit box, you press enter and the edit box will be 
>> activated.
>> When you are finished editing the box, press the virtual PC cursor key on
>> your PC keyboard. Mine is the + key on the number pad (with num lock off 
>> of
>> course).
>> This works on all browsers, but some browsers work better on
>> different sites.
>> I hope that this helps!
>>
>> Dog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Serena
>> Cucco via humanser
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:43 AM
>> To: Human Services Division Mailing List
>> Cc: Serena Cucco
>> Subject: Re: [humanser] need your input
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I wonder if this would help me on the many job app sites when Jaws
>> correctly
>> says the app wants your first name, last, etc., but then doesn't say 
>> which
>> phone number(s) the app wants?  I'm using Firefox, so how do you turn the
>> edit function on and off using Jaws?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Serena
>>
>> On 5/26/15, Michael Abell via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Good Morning Judith,
>>> I am sorry that you are hving a frustrating time with this. You are
>>> correct about the navigating as the boxes are not labeled. The work
>>> around is to toggle back and forth in the edit boxes between edit
>>> function and read only function. What I do is to tab to the next box
>>> in edit mode and then I turn off the edit function to be able to read
>>> what the box is requiring.
>>> On this particular site, when you reach the submit button (it is not
>>
>>> labeled as such) turn off the edit function and then navigate to it
>>> and press enter. This should help.
>>> If you are unsuccessful in IE try Firefox. Luck to you!
>>>
>>> Dog
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Judyth Leavitt via humanser
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:07 AM
>>> To: Human Services Division Mailing List
>>> Cc: Judyth Leavitt
>>> Subject: Re: [humanser] need your input
>>>
>>> Good Morning Michael;
>>>
>>> I am still having difficulty with the "combo" boxes.  JAWS is not
>>> reading the selections, nor can I move through the selections.  The
>>> same problem exists on Linked-In. as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>>
>>> Judyth
>>>
>>> Judyth A. Leavitt, LICSW
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Abell via humanser" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'Human Services Division Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Michael Abell" <bigdog4744 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [humanser] need your input
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I signed up for the site successfully. It took a little to do it, but
>>>> I was successful.
>>>> The first thing that I noticed is that I went on Internet Explorer.
>>>> Sometimes the browser makes a difference. I am not advocating one
>>>> over the other, but sometimes this works.
>>>> The second thing that I did was to turn on the edit feature to edit
>>>> the box when filling in the box and then tab to the next box. When
>>>> you arrive at the box, turn off the edit feature (in Jaws just hit
>>>> the + key or virtual PC cursor activation button) so that you can
>>>> read the information necessary to complete the box. Then turn back on
>>>> the edit feature in the edit box and repeat the process until you
>>>> have completed all the boxes.
>>>> A thing to remember as you are navigating these boxes is that the IE
>>>> functions are still active and you may leave the site unintentionally.
>>>> Don't
>>>> use the backspace key to delete a letter or number that you
>>>> mistakenly insrerted as this will take you back to the previous page.
>>>> Also, when you finish completing all the boxes, exit the edit feature
>>>> and tab to the complete button. The button is not labeled as a button
>>>> nor is it labled as a link, so just tab until you are at the complet
>>>> button and press enter. This should complete the process.
>>>> If you have any trouble understanding my instructions, please reach
>>>> out so I can tell you more. I hope that this was helpful!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Merry Schoch via humanser
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:46 AM
>>>> To: Human Services Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Merry Schoch
>>>> Subject: [humanser] need your input
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have had a difficult time subscribing to a newsletter, Smart Brief,
>>>> put out from the National Association of Social Workers (NASW).
>>>> After some time I figured out to subscribe you must use the arrow
>>>> keys  not the tab key.
>>>> If
>>>> you use the tab key the form fields will not be read.
>>>>
>>>> After my success at subscribing I was then sent an email to fill out
>>>> a profile.  I found that using the arrow keys were the key to reading
>>>> the form fields until I was in dialogue boxes that need me to arrow
>>>> through.  The only way out of the boxes were to use the tab key and
>>>> then I could not read the next dialogue box and was not able to
>>>> complete the profile.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am requesting that others on this list please try this process to
>>>> share
>>>>
>>>> if
>>>> you are able to complete the profile section and to let me know how
>>>> you obtained this.  If not, I would like to know this as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Below is the link to subscribe and then when you have done this
>>>> successfully you will be sent a link to update your profile.  After
>>>> you have tried the process, You may send your experience to this list
>>>> or me directly at:
>>>> merrys at verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Link to Subscribe:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www2.smartbrief.com/signupSystem/subscribe.action?pageSequence=
>>> 1&brie
>>>> fName=nasw&campaign=PD_NASW_Launch&utm_source=brief
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Merry
>>>>
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