[humanser] Sex education for blind college student

Fri Oct 2 06:17:13 UTC 2015

I am completely baffled by the moderator. I would appreciate a response from her. I am simply trying to help a blind client – as a blind person myself – to find anatomically correct models for sex education. Why on earth would this be inappropriate?

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> On Oct 1, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Merry Schoch via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>    I am copying David Andrews on this  message to ask him to remove this post from our list serv!  The comments in this post are not appropriate for the Human Services division .    If I read any more inappropriate post such as this I will request subscribers be permanently removed from this list.  If I were this child's parent  I would be absolutely mortified that anyone would post such a suggestion out to the public.  
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> Merry C. Schoch, LCSW
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> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via humanser
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:12 PM
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> Gee Karen, do you know a man that she can get her hands on? Smile. When I took a class like that, I had not gotten to know any men up close and personal, yet. I have been married 42 years now and have 6 children so, we have had a lot of hands on activities. Smile. Levity aside, it would be great if she fully understood male and female anatomy, but for the purpose of passing the class, she needs to focus on exactly what is necessary to pass the tests. Probably, verbal diagram description will work just fine. Then she can concentrate on the other part. When I took my sexual education college class I had no idea what the male genatalia was like at all. So I just learned how and why it worked and gave it back to the instructor in the correct order. The only bad part was that I learned it so well for the test that when I met my husband and became involved with him, I kept having these annoying thoughts of what was going on physiologically in the back of my mind; but those thoughts went away after a while.
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> Paulette
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> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen Rose via humanser
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:36 PM
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> I think the problem is that she needs to do more then describe. She actually needs to learn – about her own body and about the body of men. Hands on would be preferred. Has anyone had experience with using 3D printers to create models? Karen
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>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Christina Moore via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> Her school could also provide her a person that would be able to describe her the diagrams outside of class so that she would know what they look like if she needs to describe them. if the question on the quiz/exam is label the parts of the diagram that are involved in the reproductive system she could write out the process of reproduction.
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>> --Christina
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>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 18:45, Paulette Vickery via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> I would suggest that you help your client fully understand that she has already paid for this class and there is nothing wrong, pushy, or forward, about her insisting that her instructor verbalize what she is showing the class. Each time the instructor does not make a particular point verbally clear, she should immediately ask that the point be made verbally clear. Also, if any exams have diagrams in any answers to questions, I would suggest that you tell her to request that the instructor allow her to answer the question in written words rather than diagrams. Yes, we do live in a sighted world and need to do things in that medium as far as possible, however, the important thing is that we are able to understand as well as sighted people, the educational content of college classes.
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>>> Paulette
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Rose via humanser
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 12:33 AM
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>>> Subject: [humanser] Sex education for blind college student
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>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone I have a blind client in therapy who is taking a 
>>> health education class as a part of her community college curriculum. 
>>> She is uncomfortable with the class discussion of sexuality 
>>> particularly at times when the instructor is disgusting human sexual 
>>> Biology utilizing PowerPoint presentation's. I am wondering if anyone 
>>> knows of anatomically correct models and if so where she might obtain 
>>> them. Alternatively I am considering the possibility that she might 
>>> be able to scan the PowerPoint slides and then utilize a 3D printer 
>>> to make models? Any help much appreciated – Karen Rose MFT 
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