[humanser] Challenges with VR services

Mon Oct 5 18:47:14 UTC 2015

Hmmm, what if you're in a stable career and want to advance?

Maureen, Berkeley, CA

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From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Castillo via humanser
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Challenges with VR services

		Hi, because of new regulations from the new Workforce Inovation and Opportunity Act, the goal to be reached with clients is not just employment, but the highest level of employment which you can obtain. This is not to say that a rehabilitation agency will pay for class after class  or degree after degree from a highly priced private institution, but that they will assist in this case, obtaining a graduate degree, as it will eventually lead to a career that is stable. That's the goal, stability.

So again, the issue is not so much that you will have trouble justifying, rather that you have to articulate that justification in a way that allows the agency to sponsor your education.

Alex 
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From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marisol Carmona via humanser
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No :) I remember from your introduction during the last call. 

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Quinto Sanchez via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> No, I was not working before I started my Masters but, they are goal oriented and if your goal is to be a psychotherapist for veterans then they should help you get there. Another argument you might be able to make is that as a psychotherapist you would make more than what you are making now. I don't know how much you make now but, if that argument applies to you then use it. Yes, I am from San Antonio. How did you know, did we meet on your visit here?
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>> Were you working before you went for your master's? It seems that they only care that I'm employed. In their mind, I have no reason to end my job when I have a steady income?
>> Thanks for the info! You are from San Antonio, right? I visited there on a work trip a couple of years ago :)
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>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Quinto Sanchez via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> I had the same type of resistance when I was going to begin my graduate degree. However, because I wanted to conduct psychotherapy I needed to have a Masters degree in counseling. My undergrad degree in psychology would not allow me to perform therapy. Therefore, the VR agency agreed to assist me. It is the same with a Bachelors degree in Social work. you cannot administer psychotherapeutic services with that degree. FYI there is a great government program that canceled my student loans due to my disability. There are requirements but, that service is out there if you later find yourself in dept and are not able to pay when you have graduated. Here is the information: www.Disabilitydischarge.com
>>> 18883037818
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>>> From: "Marisol Carmona  via humanser" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:49 PM
>>> To: <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com>; <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: <marisol.carmona at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [humanser] Challenges with VR services
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>>>> My goal is to focus on trauma so that I may work closely with veterans and/or soldiers, particularly those experiencing PTSD. My understanding is that this is in high demand. I, of course, plan to apply for student loans to help offset some of the expenses. However, I see that justifying my case will be a battle.
>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>> 
>>>> Marisol
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>>>> From: alexandera.castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: marisol.carmona <marisol.carmona at aol.com>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2015 9:27 pm
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>>>> 
>>>> Hi, just from looking at your post, I already know that one of the problems here is justification. They will pay for your degree,  being more specific about what type of social work you want to do might help. For example, if you live in a market that is saturated with masters degrees, not only that, but it's so in the specific field you want to work in, you are certainly not competitive. So although you might be able to land something entry-level, the likelihood is very
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>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Marisol Carmona via humanser
>>>>> <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried applying for VR services in order to have some tuition
>>>> assistance during my master’s program, which I will start fall of 2016. However, they denied me because by pursuing a social work degree, it is expected that I would not be advancing in my career, particularly in terms of salary. I am currently employed, but plan on quitting my job to focus entirely on school work. I shared with them this fact and they said that I would be eligible for VR services if I am unemployed, but I possibly could be asked to show proof that I cannot get a job with my undergraduate degree in psychology. I explained that there are no jobs that I’m aware of where I could work as a social worker without a master’s level degree, to which they responded that I could probably be hired as an entry level employee.
>>>>> Has anyone had a similar challenge? Your input is greatly appreciated!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marisol
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