[humanser] Research...

Tue Oct 13 04:52:51 UTC 2015

Deniz,

good advice about the GRE.
For research, I'm in agreement about the frustrations. I am amazed at the 
successful grad students who do gobbs of research despite these access 
barriers.
Like you I found many databases to be not accessible or semi accessible. The 
one for psychology was fairly accessible though.
I want to hear more about use of Endnote. I thought that was not accessible 
from what I heard.
Can you explain more? Which version do you have? Is it fully accessible and 
which screen reader do you have?
Does it pull info from documents to create citations, or do you have to 
enter all reference info manually and then it creates the citation?
How is it helpful and how does it organize citations?

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Deniz Aydemir Dökevia humanser
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 7:47 AM
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Cc: Deniz Aydemir Döke
Subject: Re: [humanser] Research...

Hello
I am a PhD student and I took GRE 3 years ago. I took it in Turkey and
screen reader was not an option. So from my experience I would suggest
having a human reader and taking the exam in paper form. Then ETS
would give you tactile versions of the geometric figures. You can ask
for extended time, I had double time. It was barely good. Regarding
the time that you should apply for accommodations, give them 3 months.
Working with ETS was frustrating and it still is.  I know it as one of
my friends took GRE last year here in USA. It is through that
particularly in master level, you can find very nice programs which
are not asking for GRE.
Regarding Research, some data bases are not accessible, so downloading
articles can be frustrating. I am using Google scholar to search for
articles and ask someone to download them for me. You generally can
read obstructs on the web page and you can decide if it is relevant
for you. For references I started to use EndNote, it makes writing
process a lot easier.
I am working on my writing skills, English being my second language is
another barrier for me. But as you write, you get better.
Warmly
Deniz

On 10/6/15, Lisa Irving via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Ashely,
>
>
> When I did research I was able to use a CCTV to read texts and articles 
> and
> to pen my papers before typing them. I do not miss the days of relying on
> readers... I loved writing and research, however, I have a horrible time
> with the mechanics of writing. Recently, I completed a course through
> Hadley. It was a grammar class. It was like reading Greek upside down. I
> didn't get it. I passed because I know how to take notes.
>
> A few years ago I published some online articles about various aspects
> about
> domestic violence. I struggled with the mechanics and I took 40-hours to
> research and produce the final results. I know I will not have the option
> to
> spend that much time writing papers. At this point, I'm clueless about
> solutions to this challenge.
>
> Lisa Irving
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
> Bramlett via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List
> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> Subject: Re: [humanser] GRE Preparation Materials in Accessible Formats
>
> Lisa,
>
> Do you have a degree? I cannot remember if you were practicing social work
> or anything at this point or are you trying to get education to pursue a
> career in human services?
>
> This caught my attention when you said you excell at research and papers. 
> I
> am not bad at research. I use the abstracts as my guide to determine
> whether
> to read an article. Where I struggle with scholarly articles is
> understanding them amidst the jargon and picking out what I need among a
> long 20 plus page article.
> As I have low vision, I use human readers for books and despite using a
> table of contents, I find it challenging to find what info I need in a 
> book
> unless the contents has really clearly titled chapters making it obvious.
> I think you could help me by telling me pointers for research.
> So, I would like to chat off list if that's okay regarding tips for
> research
> and papers.
> I need to write a paper soon for my history elective.
>
> Now to your comment.
> Yes, I have heard what Michael said. Its true not all schools require the
> GRE.
> Check the admissions requirements, and you might also get around it by
> demonstrating skills some other way such as a portfolio.
> You are not alone in having trouble with standardized exams. If your goal
> is
> grad school, I'm sure you can find a way without the GRE. Its easier 
> though
> to take it and get in the standard way, but if you know you cannot do well
> on it, its worth looking at other options.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lisa Irving via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 5:04 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List'
> Cc: Lisa Irving
> Subject: Re: [humanser] GRE Preparation Materials in Accessible Formats
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I am very interested about what you said in terms of not all schools
> require
> the GRE. I've never done well on standardized testing. I excel in the 
> areas
> of research, writing papers and taking open-book exams. Yes, open-book
> exams
> are often much harder than multiple choice.
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Abell via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 1:55 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List'
> Cc: Michael Abell
> Subject: Re: [humanser] GRE Preparation Materials in Accessible Formats
>
> Hello,
> I think that it is important to think outside the box on education.
> Not all schools require the GRE for admission. These programs are also
> fundable by VR. Broaden your search and you may find a much more 
> acceptable
> path!
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
>
> Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
> (480) 369-0805
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
> Bramlett via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List
> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> Subject: Re: [humanser] GRE Preparation Materials in Accessible Formats
>
> Hi Christina,
>
> If you have not taken it, good luck on the GRE. If you do pass, tell  us.
> I wish you success as you try to get into grad school!
> I wanted badly to work with my bachelor's degree in  mainly psychology; I
> say mainly as it was an interdisciplinary degree in the liberal arts
> department that I created. However, I'm still searching; I'm interested in
> human services such as case management some job where you refer clients to
> other places, or being an activity coordinator or something in
> communications.
> This email was of interest to me as I may pursue grad school someday soon
> and will have to grapple with the standardized exams like the GRE.
>
> I'm concerned about securing accomodations too. I know ETS has improved
> accomodations a lot, and I even took praxis when my major was education.
> But
> some exams ETS administers does not allow use of  a screen reader.
>
> I'm also curious wich accomodations you chose to use if you cannot use
> their
> version of a screen reader? Will you get it in braille, or have it read to
> you aloud?
>
> I certainly agree that ETS takes a while to approve accomodations; three
> weeks sounds right. But really, given they are a large company for the
> nation, I suspect they cannot work any faster. Its frustrating, I know, 
> but
> realistically, how can they be much faster. Yes, it sucks we have to apply
> and plan way in advance of everyone else, but I also understand why we 
> need
> to do it.
>
> Thanks for sharing your experience.
>
> Ashley
>
>
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Deniz Aydemir Doke
PhD Student - Counselor Education & Supervision
Department of Educational Psychology, Counseling, & Special Education
The Pennsylvania State University

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