[humanser] traveling

Sat Apr 16 10:23:12 UTC 2016

Understood, but if you are in danger of underperforming, or losing the job,
then just remember that. 
Second, be careful that it doesn't cost you more to go to work, then not
going.
Chart the expenditures for personal reference, and for possible leagal
issues with the ADA in the future.

 Justin

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From: Humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
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Subject: Re: [humanser] traveling

I'm only three-weeks into my new job so I'm very inclined to cut my employer
some slack. I know what they are doing is totally illegal, however, I'm not
going in with guns blazing. 

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Wait a minute.  Did I just see that the employer is not helping you, but is
in some way compensating other employees?
 If so, ADA all day long.
Title one.
 Justin

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Q-dog,
	You are spot on. Whatever the company is doing for others is what
should be done for the employee. If subsidies or reimbursements are provided
to others, it is "reasonable" to assume it should be provided to all
employees. If all employees are expected to provide their own vehicles, then
all employees are responsible to provide their own transportation. It would
not be a reasonable accomidation to pay for transportation for one employee
and not for all.

Warmly,

Rev. Michael "Big Dog" Abell

Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
(480) 369-0805

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From: Humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Quinto
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Subject: Re: [humanser] traveling

 Hi Lisa,

I think the employer should help you with some type of finances for travel
as they do compensate other employees who take there own vehicles. Maybe
they can pay you the mileage based off of google maps or whatever company
driver you use.

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From: "Lisa Irving via humanser" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] traveling

> I've got mixed feelings about putting all of the financial 
> responsibility on the driver. I think about sighted people who own a 
> car. Yes, an employer pays mileage and gas and sometimes parking. On 
> the other hand, the employer doesn't contribute maintenance and 
> insurance and the like. If I drove half of these items would be my 
> responsibility. Therefore, I have mixed feelings about who pays for 
> what. I don't want to get caught in the middle of management and 
> bureaucracy. I also can't carry the financial aspect on my salary.
> That's why I offered to split the cost. I'm also somewhat open to 
> giving up two or so hours a month of my hours to go toward sharing the 
> cost of an occasional driver. One of my mixed feelings is I'm on 
> probation for six months; I've been at work three weeks. More thoughts 
> please.
>
> I did put a call into JAN. I'm waiting for a call-back.
>
> Lisa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jan 
> Bailey via humanser
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:56 AM
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> Cc: Jan Bailey <jlb021951 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] traveling
>
> THINK HIRING A DRIVER WOULD BE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION AND THE 
> EMPLYER SHOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THAT.
> Jan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Irving via humanser
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:36 PM
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> Cc: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> Subject: [humanser] traveling
>
> I am trying to problem solve. A large part of my job involves going to 
> and from work sites in the community. Like anyone else I'm traveling 
> to a community-based worksite or to the office on my time and on my 
> dime. On the other hand, when I leave the community-based work site; a 
> resource fair; clubhouse; County HHS or any other mental health 
> program, I'm on the clock.
> My supervisor and I had a discussion and left it unfinished for the 
> short-term. The discussion centered around my request for the company 
> to split the cost for someone to drive me from the distant site back 
> to the office. (the site is at least 45 minutes by car). Her initial 
> responses looked like this.
>
>
>
> At first she said there's no way the company would go for anything 
> like that. She also reminded me that I stated during the interview 
> that I could travel through out the county. I stand by my response. I 
> have the confidence and the ability to go where I want and when I 
> want, however, if I'm hauling heavy stuff or bulky stuff; including 
> groceries or resource materials, I do not use the bus system.For work 
> it's not uncommon to see team memberspulling a roller bag behindthem.
> Unlike my peers, in addition to a roller bag for resources and 
> supplies, I'll carry my backpack that contains food; dog supplies and 
> a few other things. I'll also take my laptop in a shoulder bag.
> That's too much to haul on and off the busses and my back and shoulder 
> is shot from doing just that.
>
>
>
> I thought about some solutions and I'm hoping that you can share your 
> thoughts. I can quit; not an option. I can use the bus system; not 
> practicle. I can hire a driver. This what I do when I call Uber (when 
> the darn app works). Each time I pay for driving it's more money out 
> of my part-time employee pocket. I can do this to a small extent. I 
> asked if the company would split the cost of someone driving for me 
> when I have to go to multiple sites or travel long distances. The 
> initial response was no. I am going to contact the Job Accommodations 
> Network today. Please share your suggestions.
>
>
>
> By the way Ericka, generally, each team member flys solo when working 
> in the community. If we are teamed up it's each person's 
> responsibility to make his/her own travel arrangements. For various 
> reasons some team members do not want my dog in their car. There are 
> other reasons too. We travel with equipment; sometimes a binder and 
> other times more stuff. You may already know that folks who drive 
> often leave half of their house in the car.
> Again, please share your thoughts.
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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