[humanser] Question about cane sanitation for hospital use
Ericka
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Thu Feb 18 03:10:31 UTC 2016
Justin has a point JD. If I lost all my vision what would I do? Not all of us are called to be puppy powered. I like dogs but they're even better when they go home with their owners .
Ericka Short
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."
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> On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:22 PM, JD Townsend via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> If that makes you comfortable, then proceed.
>
> If this is your fears about performing your job professionally as a blind person, rethink. Skilled Nursing Facilities and Medical hospitals deal daily with vomit, spit, urine and feces. Except for rare & exceptional circumstances where the facility has imposed special precautions your white cane is more likely to meet one of the aformentioned items than transmit a germ.
>
> JD
> -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via humanser
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> But, those persons who don't have a dog guide may need the cane to get around the room which is why having a sterilized one on hand in the hospitial or nursing home might be a good idea as wel.
> Justin
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> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Cook via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:06 AM
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> I agree with this. I think we can place too much attention on extraneous things. I'd do the same as you JD.
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> Shannon Cook, MSW
> Counselor, Older Blind Program
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of JD Townsend via humanser
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:33 AM
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> Cc: JD Townsend <43210 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Question about cane sanitation for hospital use
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> Hello All,
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> I have worked in a medical hospital for the past 15 years at my present hospital and for years in past decades.
>
> My dog guide was never dis-allowed, my white cane never questioned.
>
> If I were to have to enter a room where gowns and shoe wraps were required I would chose to leave my white cane in the hallway.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ericka via humanser
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> Makes sense to me. MRSA is a big problem in nursing homes too. You don't want to bring anything in those rooms or take anything out. Not resistant to antibiotics, not everyone comes out of that OK if you know what I mean. I would feel really bad to bring something in off the street to someone who couldn't fight it off. Hospitals are places to get better. I would feel incredibly guilty matter what my reason for being in that room to make someone else more sick or worse.
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> Ericka Short
> "What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."
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>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Carly Mihalakis via humanser
>> <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Sanitizing your cane? That's new to me. Seems like sanitizing your
>> shoes, kind of pointless?
>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>> Carwrote:
>>> I forgot that one! I have also considered having a cane, even two,
>>> set aside for use in the hospitals. On 8/17/15, Annely Rose via
>>> humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm following this
>>> thread and it is very thought provoking. I am recalling > that when
>>> my late husband was in the hospital with a staff infection in his >
>>> nasal passages, as they called it, all of us had to wear protective
>>> gear, > but the nurse brought in the medication cart and I'm not
>>> aware that anyone > wiped it down afterward. also, there was
>>> furniture in the room and other > equipment. I carried my cane in
>>> and no one said anything. Even a doctor > came in and didn't have a gown on or any facial mask. go figure.
>>> Maybe > this hospital wasn't as strict or should I say they were
>>> careless. And > where did my husband get this infection? He was
>>> home with us 2 days before > and a day in ICU before they diagnosed
>>> it and none of the family came down > with it. The ICU staff didn't
>>> wear anything protective. Makes you wonder. > And if you get sick,
>>> they say that there are staff germs everywhere, even on > our skin.
>>> Our canes go everywhere with us and who knows what the > tips come
>>> in contact with on a daily basis. I try to wipe mine clean, but >
>>> many times forget. When I fold it up, I never put it in my purse and
>>> try > not to touch it either on my skin or on my clothes. And, of
>>> course, I never > put it on a table anywhere. If I set it on a chair
>>> in a restaurant, I'll > leave the tip hanging over the edge. > >
>>> Annely > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Mon,
>>> 8/17/15, Michael Abell via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Subject: Re:
>>> [humanser] Question about cane sanitation for hospital use > To:
>>> "'Human Services Division Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org> > Cc:
>>> "Michael Abell" <bigdog4744 at gmail.com> > Date: Monday, August 17,
>>> 2015, 12:18 PM > > Hello, > Â Â Â These are all fantastic and
>>> thought > provoking answers! I am taken by > the new > frontiers
>>> that we are blazing through. > Â Â Â I have special canes for
>>> occasions. What > about a cane that would be > used for just >
>>> such purposes. You could remove any porous material > (grips, >
>>> tips . and elastic) even going to a > solid cane. This would make it
>>> easy to > sanitize and you could limit its use for these >
>>> purposes. > Â Â Â J D brings up very salient > points about
>>> instruments and devices. I > would ask the hospital staff what they
>>> do with > their devices. I am also > waiting to hear > what our
>>> dear friend Dr. Chapel has to say on this > subject! > Mary? > > >
>>> Regards, > > Michael "Big Dog" Abell > > Helping individuals to find
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>>> Message----- > From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] >
>>> On Behalf Of Ginny Duff > via humanser > Sent: Monday, August 17,
>>> 2015
>>> 9:06 AM > To: humanser at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ginny Duff > Subject: Re:
>>> > [humanser] Question about cane sanitation for hospital > use > >
>>> I work in a hospital > although being in psychiatry, I rarely have
>>> to worry > about this issue.   I agree that the > cane is
>>> essential.   Its one thing to > leave it outside the room when
>>> you are just > visiting but it would be a > completely > different
>>> matter if you were working there. > > I'd be just as concerned >
>>> about the tip and the handle.   If you touch > something with
>>> your gloves then you have > transferred anything contaminated > to
>>> the > handle and then once you take the gloves off your hands are >
>>> in direct > contact with the > handle.   Of course when you fold
>>> the cane up you > then > touch the whole thing. > > You could
>>> contact the head of > infection control and let them mull that over.
>>> > > > What to do > with the cane would be analogous to what staff
>>> do with a > walker > or medical equipment that is taken > out of
>>> the room later.   They must wipe > that equipment down with
>>> something that would > work on your cane.  Alcohol > swabs are a
>>> > bit too small. > > Ginny > > > > Dr. V. Duff > Clinical
>>> Director, > West End ACT Team, > St. Joseph's Heatlh > Centre ,
>>> Toronto > Staff Psychiatrist, Complex > Mental Illness, CAMH
>>> Lecturer, University of > Toronto > Tel:Â Â Â 416.530.6000, ext
>>> 3101 > FAX:Â Â Â
>>> 416.530.6363 > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:43
>>> > AM, JD Townsend via humanser > <humanser at nfbnet.org> > wrote: >
>>> > > > > > Hello Kaiti & All: > > > > Interesting > question.Â
>>> I do work in a hospital and precautions are > > always an issue. >
>>> > > > My questions are: > > Do > other staff wear street shoes or
>>> cover them with booties? > > Do other staff wear full body coverings
>>> or > are pants exposed? > > > > Alcohol wipes are always present
>>> in > hospitals. A clean wipe of my > > white > cane would provide
>>> much better protection than the exposure > to > > my shoes or pants
>>> and much better > protection than nursing clipboards or > exposed
>>> hair. > > > > According to my best knowledge, your white > cane is
>>> considered a > > prosthesis, like > a prostetic leg and as such
>>> there ought be no problem > > if it is kept as clean as one of
>>> those > devices. > > > > If shoe > booties are called for, just
>>> use one for your cane tip. > > > > I would be more > concerned
>>> about your music insterments - players and > > the like, and your
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