[humanser] Three months ago I started a new job all employeesare required to complete online on board training within 30days; I have not

Fri Jul 8 14:04:41 UTC 2016

You're doing the right thing Lisa. If I had a job, I would do the same. Problem is, I rarely get past the application part to an interview.

I'm so sorry your VR counselor is being a jerk. From what I understand, CAP is not very helpful either. Not just in California but everywhere unfortunately.

Ericka Short
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."

 from my iPhone 6s

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Lisa Irving via Humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Ashley, thanks for shortening the title in the subject line. Not sure how I screwed up on that. I do have some vision. I pretty much see some shapes and some colors. Therefore using the close circuit television is doable but a huge challenge and very time intensive on a somewhat humorous note it pretty much took an act of Congress to get jobs on the computer at work. It may take an active God to get open book on the computer I do believe in God and I believe all things are possible. LOL The phone dictate feature should have said jaws; not jobs. I am so missing having a working laptop.
> 
> I really appreciate your helpful suggestions. Because my employer has had little education about accommodations and the use of readers in conjunction with Hyppa regulations I have run into roadblocks in this area. While my employer is trying to figure things out in terms of how we can all work together to provide sighted assistance when I really need it I contacted the client assistance program advocate about this issue. For those of you who are not for Milyer with the client assistance program advocates in California they are basically liaisons between department of rehabilitation clients and their counselors when communication and services breakdown subsequently I have learned it will probably take an act of Congress God and the president for department of rehabilitation to provide me with a reader before I get fired I am not looking for a vendor eyes to read her from department of rehabilitation to be the end-all of and dolls to solve the situation simply a temporary fix until a bigger and more effective and long-lasting solution is determined  
> 
> 
> I do have the KN FB reader on my iPhone and I love it to death! For the most part it works well to read handouts. You are probably for Milyer with some of the cayenne FB reader's when it comes to reading various handouts. Again it does work for the most part
> 
> When it comes to some of the paperwork for now I have created my own accommodation. On one form we are supposed to check off boxes that pertain to specific types of meetings or services. I have been writing the specific type of meeting or meetings and the types of services at the top of the farm when I review the paperwork and respond to any needs specified by a participant The second thing I have been doing is when I cannot read a participants hand writing I put a Post-it note on the form and leave a message for my supervisor. Additionally I emphasize to participants the importance of neatly in clearly printing information. Also, at my request my supervisor has provided me with Finn tip sharpies that right dark without bleeding on the paper. This helps to some extent.
> 
> I have also gotten a little bit more assertive when it comes to asking for what I need in order to perform the essential functions of my job at times it is a fine line to walk to be assertive and to not be insubordinate there are a couple of coworkers that I have learned I can approach if I need something red. Because our schedules are all over the place this type of support is not reliable I am also putting the ball back of my supervisors court. She is aware of the tasks that I need to perform. For example, she will be on vacation part of next week. Obviously, I will not be able to approach her for sighted assistance therefore I asked her what she would like me to do while she is gone. The other thing I did today when I completed paperwork was to hand it to my supervisor and I asked her to review it and give me feedback.
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> As I previously mentioned in a different posting in response to Erica short I am fed up with dealing with the agencies that are supposed to be helpful so, I did the smarter thing; I contacted our national office.
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> There was a suggestion about the photocopier. The vast majority of the functions on the sophisticated photocopier are exclusionary to Blind employees therefore, I need to rely on assistance from other individuals.
> 
> I did something else that I did something else that was intended to be proactive. Yesterday papers and binders and other items were strewn around and on the closer get television that belongs to another employee who graciously allows me to use I took two pictures with my iPhone. The purpose of the pictures is to illustrate the recognized need for separate and save space for our adaptive equipment.before I share the pictures with the appropriate individual it work I am going to run this idea by the individual from the national office. The national office being the National Federation Of The Blind office.
> 
> Thank you for putting up with the funky sentence structures and I had words in this message. I am fed up with using the dictate feature I want my laptop back.
> 
> Thoughtfully, Lisa Irving
> 
> PS if I have a little bit of downtime at work I plan to look up how to create forms using word.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Quinto Sanchez via Humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa
>> 
>> Ashley gave some good advice for your specific issues that you mentioned. I just wanted to add that for the hardcopy forms there is a way for you to recreate those forms electronically and you are able to check boxes and fill in the information where it is necessary. I have an old document that states how to do this in older versions of word, I don't know what version of word you use, but I'm sure you can also find instructions online as to how to create accessible forms in word using the current version you have.
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>> From: "Ashley Bramlett via Humanser" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:17 PM
>> To: "Human Services Division Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [humanser] Three months ago I started a new job all employeesare required to complete online on board training within 30days; I have not
>> 
>>> Lisa,
>>> I needed to shorten the subject, hope that was okay.
>>> 
>>> Wow, what a delima. Sorry to write so much today but I had time tonight and had a lot of employment questions and concerns on my mind as I'm about to be interviewed myself and have wondered how I'd integrate needing accomodations while also selling myself to the employer coupled with the fact I don't know if I will need scripting for the software and things like that.
>>> 
>>> Your situation struck a chord with me Lisa! I know how it is to be on a deadline and not have things accessible and also have a place where people are spread thin with no one to assist when you need them. I've be an intern and volunteer and these situations have arisen.
>>> 
>>> When I did the security awareness training for being a tutor, another tutor had to sit with me and read the screen to me. My supervisor arranged it so they had no students to see so they would be free to help me.
>>> Like you, my supervisor also helped me with some training such as the online tests where she filled in my answers.
>>> And just like your situation, the supervisor's schedule and mine often conflicted. Oh, and the supervisor being too busy to assist you sounds very, very familiar! I'm not blaming the supervisor, btw, I'm just stating the facts. She did what she could to help but also had many duties.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa, I hope things work out. Is there any way you can bring a reader into work with you to complete training? Maybe a friend or look for a college
>>> student who has flexibility In the day.
>>> 
>>> Here are ideas for other problems you brought up.
>>> 
>>> 1. The  photocopier: some are touch screens and inaccessible. Others have buttons. Can you label the buttons in braille or tactile marks? Since I believe you have some vision, maybe a magnifier would work.
>>> 
>>> 2. The hard copy resources in the mailbox:
>>> again, I think a reader is the best solution and you can record the information on a digital recorder.
>>> Alternatively, an OCR speech program that scans and reads text may also work. I personally like Openbook made by freedom scientific. If you are permitted to use an iphone, the KNFB reader Ap might also work. Another scanning solution is on the book reader made by Hims, its called the Blaze EZ.
>>> 
>>> 3. The hard copy forms: sounds like a reader whether it be your supervisor or someone else will be needed.
>>> 
>>> That's too bad the supervisor said to only come to her. I've been at liberty to ask coworkers for help if I need it, but I've not been employed full time.
>>> 
>>> Lisa, I think all your accomodation issues are a very good example why its so hard for blind people to find and maintain employment. Once we have jobs, it may be difficult to keep them for the very reasons you articulated.
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid I cannot offer much advice. But just know you are not the only one struggling to find or keep employment.
>>> 
>>> Ashley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Irving via Humanser
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:38 PM
>>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Lisa Irving
>>> Subject: [humanser] Three months ago I started a new job all employees arerequired to complete online on board training within 30 days;I have not. My employer has Agnello just they are aware that a numberof platforms they use including some for on boarding trainingare not ADA compliant. Six weeks ago my employer provided mewith the transcripts and answers to the corresponding quizzesfor on boarding training purposes Per my supervisors requestI read the transcripts and let her know that I had completedthose tasks at that point I and my supervisor notified humanresources that I had read the transcripts. My supervisor andI thought this meant I had completed training requirementshowever substandard Workplace accommodations: quite the quandary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Two weeks ago my supervisor called me into her office. Essentially she has been tasked with reading the tests to me and listening to some of the audio information she's also been tasked with filling in my responses. As you can imagine this is very time intensive for both of us are schedules typically conflict. This leads me to the very uncomfortable part of this message.
>>> 
>>> Initially my supervisor started feeling in my responses with her responses. At that point I had expressed concern and I was met with something to the effect of well we just have to get this done last Friday I was scheduled to be off of work however she and I agreed that I would come in to complete the on boarding training requirements. For the most part we pretty much set in gabbed occasionally she would read and answer and typically she would complete the response. Again I expressed some concern. Yesterday morning my supervisor changed my schedule that is I was scheduled to go into the community and facilitate a meeting. I was instructed to remain in the office in order to complete the on boarding training requirements. My supervisor and I have been tasked with completing these requirements by July 8. I reported to my supervisors office and Lauren learned that she had some other things to take care of that point I was instructed to go and work on my articles so .  I am afraid to ask her if she completed my tests. I don't number of occasions I expressed fear of doing something wrong and egg knowledge that I am on the hook for knowing the material. Granted some of the information does not apply to us however I value my job and I value being ethical. I am really in a dilemma. My supervisor assured me there is nothing to worry about. Well we all know what rolls downhill and we know typically who it it's usually not management.
>>> 
>>> I am encountering some aspects of my job that whether I like it or not do necessitate some sighted assistance. This is very true when it comes to using the photocopier; oh dread! Furthermore my coworkers will come a crossed resources and share them with me. These resources are in hardcopy and are put in my mailbox as well as the mailboxes of my coworkers. Often these resources are picked up at fares and meetings and other places of interest. Additionally, well there are some portions of paperwork that I can complete. I have subsequently learned that a couple of forms have very faded print that his boxes that we are supposed to check off needless to say since the forms are not being converted into a usable format I need sighted assistance very recently my supervisor instructed me to only come to her as we are spread very thin and other employees are tasked with completing their own assignments. As you can imagine this is problematic because my supervisor and I are not always in the office or available at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Today, pretty much everything hit the fan for most of us. We were without our computers. The good news is one employee had some downtime to do some reading and help me with some photocopying this is great but I have to tell you it is very stressful never knowing who to go to and when someone is available to help what do you do?
>>> 
>>> While all of this and other things mostly good are going on I have contacted the job accommodations network and frankly I have found them pretty useless. Once I was passed off to the California office called Department of fair employment and housing Darian the last time I was passed off to disability rights of California however the name is deceptive. They do not advocate or work to advocate when it comes to work issues. This organization seems to mostly help advocate for clients were having challenges with department of rehabilitation I have learned that the only way the Department of fair employment and housing and will assist me is for me to file a grievance I don't think this is particularly favorable because I am a new employee; I am on probation and, well, let's face it I don't want to rock the boat. I also don't want to get canned. That according to my supervisor isn't even close to being issue.
>>> 
>>> I am feeling a bit overwhelmed. I really would like to learn how others handle these circumstances. I do enjoy my job I will admit I feel less and less supported in some areas of my work.
>>> 
>>> From,
>>> Lisa Irving
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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