[humanser] Driver's license requirement

Mon Jan 23 02:34:27 UTC 2017

Listers,

Just in case the Word attachment didn't send properly, I am sending the 
attachment again and cutting and pasting the letter below this message.

I certainly understand concerns about flagging an application. It 
probably would take a certain type of HR person who would understand my 
situation and deal properly with my application.

Cheryl Wade

Cheryl Wade

1418 Vine St., No. 6

Lansing, MI, 48912

June 22, 2015

Dear Hiring Manager:

This is an addendum to my application materials.

I have been totally blind since birth and have worked my entire adult 
life without benefit of my own vehicle or a driver license. I have made 
many off-site trips while working in previous positions. I do this by 
means of volunteer or paid drivers, carpooling through work, public 
transportation or taxi cabs.

I understand that getting to places on public transportation takes 
longer than driving does. As a result, I am careful to make up any lost 
time, or to take a laptop with me and work while on the bus or in the 
Dial-A-Ride van. I recognize that hiring a driver often is an 
out-of-pocket expense for me, and that is why I often network in my 
communities to find reputable volunteer drivers if possible. As an 
alternative method, an agency might take the money it would provide for 
my company vehicle and instead allow me to use it to pay drivers.

If I should be interviewed for a position, I would be frank in talking 
about my disability, my adaptive equipment and any necessary 
negotiations involved with my traveling from place to place. I would 
welcome any questions from the interviewers.

I recognize that driving may be divided into two types: traveling to and 
from meetings independently and taking clients to their destinations. 
Driving clients, I realize, has different types of liabilities and 
responsibilities than traveling alone. If I should need to take clients 
to their destinations, I would be willing to use drivers or public 
transportation such as a Dial-A-Ride service, but only with the 
permission of the client or his/her guardian and with my agency’s approval.

All Best,

Cheryl Wade, MA, CRC, LLPC

On 1/22/2017 8:57 PM, Lisa Irving via HumanSer wrote:
> Cheryl,
>
> Would you mind re sending the letter that you referenced? I have spent a
> rather frustrating afternoon doing online job searches. I've come across two
> jobs that I am qualified to do.
>
> Cheryl and others, I am concerned that by having my application "flagged" HR
> will toss my application or, I'll get a token interview. Yes, two summers
> ago, I was given a token interview...
>
> Lastly, are there other states besides California that use different letters
> on the photo ID to differentiate DL from photo ID? How do you work around
> thiscatagorization?
>
> Lisa Irving
>
>    
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HumanSer [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Wade
> via HumanSer
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:23 PM
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Cheryl Wade <wadecher at msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement
>
> Greetings,
>
>
> I have a couple of suggestions about driver licenses. At one point, when I
> was very interested in a position, I called the director of human resources,
> explained my situation and asked her to flag my application as being
> qualified, if my other attributes were suitable. She assured me that she
> would do so.
>
>
> Second, here is a letter I sometimes include with applications when the
> driver license comes up.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Cheryl Wade, Outpatient Therapist
>
> Sacred Heart Rehabilitation Center
>
>
>
> On 1/21/2017 6:29 AM, Danielle Ledet via HumanSer wrote:
>>    would have to agree with Janice. It's been my experience that when
>> asked for a DL a State ID is always accepted.
>>
>> On 1/21/17, Justin Williams via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Yes it could, but I don't know how lift and Uber work when transporting
>>> clnsumers.  My guess is that they wouldn't work for that, but you could
>>> transport yourself.  However, if it comes down to getting an interview,
> by
>>> saying yes, and not getting an interview by saying no, I saying yes.
>>> Unless
>>> driving is an essential part of the job, it shouldn't be on the job
>>> discription.
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HumanSer [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>> Franks via HumanSer
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 2:10 AM
>>> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jonathan Franks <jfranks at nfbtx.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> This is a very interesting thread that I actually came across a situation
>>> today.
>>>
>>> I was looking for jobs at my State's Department of Family and Protective
>>> Services and came across a CPS Trainee position.
>>>
>>> One of the job requirements is:
>>> This position requires use of the applicant's personal motor vehicle to
>>> complete job functions. Applicants for positions must have a reliable
> motor
>>> vehicle; an acceptable driving record for the past five years; a current,
>>> valid Texas driver's license appropriate for the vehicle and passenger or
>>> cargo load that applies to the job; and proof of insurance. Applicants
> must
>>> provide proof of driving record, insurance, and license.
>>>
>>> However, my question is:
>>> Could ride sharing services such as Uber and Lift substitute for this
>>> requirement?
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing your responses as this situation is quite new
> for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Franks BSW
>>> Secretary
>>> National Federation of the Blind Human Services Division
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/17, Miranda via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Janice,
>>>> I like your train of thought, especially because for anything other
>>>> than driving, a valid state ID card is equivalent to that of a drivers
>>>> license. I do have a quick question for you though. What solutions do
>>>> you propose for responsibilities related to most social work or human
>>> services positions?
>>>> For transporting yourself, you could have a private driver,  use a
>>>> taxi or Uber, use paratransit or ride the city bus depending on time
>>>> constraints, but what if clients need to be transported? I am simply
>>>> asking, because this is a concern that I myself have encountered. When
>>>> I did my internship, I rode with another coworker who was supervising
>>>> and teaming up with me on projects. However, I would love to hear
>>>> anyone's
>>> proposed solutions.
>>>> Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Miranda
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Janice Toothman via HumanSer
>>>>> <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Sarah,
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in MD and in the counseling professional.  I decided that
>>>>> since I have an ID card from the MD department of Motor Vehicles that
>>>>> I will answer "yes" for the dilemma you propose.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope then that once granted an interview that I can state my case
>>>>> and explain a solution if they truly believe that this is an
>>>>> Essential component of the job.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I feel that this is a way for businesses and agencies to
>>>>> start a criminal background checks on potential interviewees as well
>>>>> as potentially discriminate against certain groups if they have a way
>>>>> to access a persons drivers license/ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janice
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/20/2017 6:49 PM, patnaude.sarah--- via HumanSer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last several months I have been applying for jobs in the social
>>>>>> work/mental health/criminal justice field. My hope is to one day be
>>>>>> a Victim Advocate. However, through this process, comes the
>>>>>> frustration with the issue surrounding driver license. Many of the
>>>>>> jobs in these fields require you to transport clients, which is
>>>>>> another frustration all in itself. However, even jobs where I
>>>>>> wouldn't have to transport anyone requires a drivers license.
>>>>>> Usually I just put no on the application and hope for an interview
>>>>>> but it seems the Virginia Government website automatically
>>>>>> disqualifies my application from being considered if I press no.
>>>>>> This has happened twice, both for jobs I was qualified for and in
>>>>>> some cases even over-qualified. I was wondering what you all have
>>>>>> done about this or would advise me to do. I would say yes and then
>>>>>> just explain in the interview since I do have a State ID, but I don't
>>> want to lie on the application.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
>>> between blind people  and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
>>> blindness is not what holds you back.
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