[humanser] Question about cane sanitation for hospital use

Wed May 17 12:18:57 UTC 2017

Good morning, a staralized cane seems a bit 
counterintuitive, if you wanna know the truth.
I mean, it's not like a cane would even come into 
contact with patients' bodies or open wounds, anyway.
In light of hospitals/skilled nursing 
opperations'  regular contact with excretia, 
there doesn't seem too much necessity in 
staralizing something that searches the floor.
Car

  If this is your fears about performing your job 
professionally as a blind person, 
rethink.  Skilled Nursing Facilities and Medical 
hospitals deal daily with vomit, spit, urine and 
feces.  Except for rare & exceptional 
circumstances where the facility has imposed 
special precautions your white cane is more 
likely to meet one of the aformentioned  items 
than transmit a germ. JD -----Original 
Message----- From: justin williams via humanser 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:35 AM To: 
'Human Services Division Mailing List' Cc: justin 
williams Subject: Re: [humanser] Question about 
cane sanitation for hospital use But, those 
persons who don't have a dog guide may need the 
cane to get around the room which is why having a 
sterilized one on hand in the hospitial or 
nursing home might be a good idea as wel. Justin 
-----Original Message----- From: humanser 
[mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Shannon Cook via humanser Sent: Tuesday, February 
16, 2016 11:06 AM To: Human Services Division 
Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org> Cc: Shannon 
Cook <SCook at sccb.sc.gov> Subject: Re: [humanser] 
Question about cane sanitation for hospital use I 
agree with this.  I think we can place too much 
attention on extraneous things.  I'd do the same 
as you JD. Shannon Cook, MSW Counselor, Older 
Blind Program -----Original Message----- From: 
humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of JD Townsend via humanser Sent: Tuesday, 
February 16, 2016 9:33 AM To: Human Services 
Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org> Cc: 
JD Townsend <43210 at bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: 
[humanser] Question about cane sanitation for 
hospital use Hello All, I have worked in a 
medical hospital for the past 15 years at my 
present hospital and for years in past decades. 
My dog guide was never dis-allowed, my white cane 
never questioned. If I were to have to enter a 
room where gowns and shoe wraps were required I 
would chose to leave my white cane in the 
hallway. -----Original Message----- From: Ericka 
via humanser Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:15 
PM To: Human Services Division Mailing List Cc: 
Ericka Subject: Re: [humanser] Question about 
cane sanitation for hospital use Makes sense to 
me. MRSA is a big problem in nursing homes too. 
You don't want to bring anything in those rooms 
or take anything out. Not resistant to 
antibiotics, not everyone comes out of that OK if 
you know what I mean. I would feel really bad to 
bring something in off the street to someone who 
couldn't fight it off. Hospitals are places to 
get better. I would feel incredibly guilty matter 
what my reason for being in that room to make 
someone else more sick or worse. Ericka Short 
"What is right is not always popular; what is 
popular is not always right." from my iPhone > On 
Feb 14, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Carly Mihalakis via 
humanser > <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > 
Sanitizing your cane? That's new to me. Seems 
like sanitizing your > shoes, kind of 
pointless? > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > 
Carwrote: >> I forgot that one!  I have also 
considered having a cane, even two, >> set aside 
for use in the hospitals. On 8/17/15, Annely Rose 
via >> humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > 
Hi, > > I'm following this >> thread and it is 
very thought provoking.  I am recalling > that 
when >> my late husband was in the hospital with 
a staff infection in his > >> nasal passages, as 
they called it, all of us had to wear 
protective >> gear, > but the nurse brought in 
the medication cart and I'm not >> aware that 
anyone > wiped it down afterward.  also, there 
was >> furniture in the room and other > 
equipment.  I carried my cane in >> and no one 
said anything.  Even a doctor  > came in and 
didn't have a >> gown on or any facial mask.  go 
figure. >> Maybe > this hospital wasn't as strict 
or should I say they were >> careless.  And > 
where did my husband get this infection?  He 
was >> home with us 2 days before > and a day in 
ICU before they diagnosed >> it and none of the 
family came down > with it.  The ICU staff 
didn't >> wear anything protective.  Makes you 
wonder. > And if you get sick, >> they say that 
there are staff germs everywhere, even on > our 
skin. >> Our canes go everywhere with us and who 
knows what the >  tips come >> in contact with on 
a daily basis.  I try to wipe mine clean, 
but > >> many times forget.  When I fold it up, I 
never put it in my purse and >> try > not to 
touch it either on my skin or on my 
clothes.  And, of >> course, I never > put it on 
a table anywhere.  If I set it on a chair >> in a 
restaurant, I'll > leave the tip hanging over the 
edge. > > >> Annely > >  > 
-------------------------------------------- > On 
Mon, >> 8/17/15, Michael Abell via humanser 
<humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > >> Subject: 
Re: >> [humanser] Question about cane sanitation 
for hospital use >  To: >> "'Human Services 
Division Mailing List'" 
<humanser at nfbnet.org> >  Cc: >> "Michael Abell" 
<bigdog4744 at gmail.com> >  Date: Monday, August 
17, >> 2015, 12:18 PM  > >  Hello, >  Ã‚ Ã‚ 
Ã‚  These are all fantastic and >> 
thought >  provoking answers! I am taken 
by >  the new >  frontiers >> that we are blazing 
through. >  Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  I have special canes for >> 
occasions. What >  about a cane that would 
be >  used for just > >> such purposes. You could 
remove any porous material >  (grips, > >> tips . 
and elastic) even going to a > solid cane. This 
would make it >> easy to >  sanitize and you 
could limit its use for these > >> 
purposes. >  Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  J D brings up very 
salient > points about >> instruments and 
devices. I >  would ask the hospital staff what 
they >> do with >  their devices. I am 
also >  waiting to hear >  what our >> dear 
friend Dr. Chapel has to say on 
this >  subject! >  Mary? > > > >> Regards, > > 
Michael "Big Dog" Abell > >  Helping individuals 
to find >> > their eyes in the dark. >  (480) 
369-0805 > > > >  -----Original >> 
Message----- >  From: humanser 
[mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] > >> On 
Behalf Of Ginny Duff >  via humanser >  Sent: 
Monday, August 17, >> 2015 >> 9:06 AM >  To: 
humanser at nfbnet.org >  Cc: Ginny Duff >  Subject: 
Re: >> > [humanser] Question about cane 
sanitation for hospital >  use > > >> I work in a 
hospital >  although being in psychiatry, I 
rarely have >> to worry > about this issue.Ã‚ Ã‚ 
Ã‚ I agree that the >  cane is >> essential.Ã‚ Ã‚ 
Ã‚ Its one thing to >  leave it outside the room 
when >> you are just >  visiting but it would be 
a >  completely >  different >> matter if you 
were working there. > >  I'd be just as 
concerned > >> about the tip and the handle.Ã‚ Ã‚ 
Ã‚ If you touch >  something with >> your gloves 
then you have >  transferred anything 
contaminated >  to >> the >  handle and then once 
you take the gloves off your hands are > >> in 
direct >  contact with the >  handle.Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Of 
course when you fold >> the cane up 
you >  then >  touch the whole thing. > >  You 
could >> contact the head of >  infection control 
and let them mull that over. >> > > >  What to 
do >  with the cane would be analogous to what 
staff >> do with a >  walker >  or medical 
equipment that is taken >  out of >> the room 
later.Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ They must wipe >  that equipment 
down with >> something that would >  work on your 
cane.Ã‚  Ã‚  Alcohol > swabs are a >> >  bit too 
small. > >  Ginny > > > >  Dr. V. 
Duff >  Clinical >> Director, >  West End ACT 
Team, >  St. Joseph's Heatlh >  Centre , >> 
Toronto >  Staff Psychiatrist, Complex >  Mental 
Illness, CAMH >> Lecturer, University 
of >  Toronto >  Tel:Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ 416.530.6000, 
ext >> 3101 >  FAX:Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ >> 
416.530.6363 > >  Sent from my iPad > >  > On Aug 
17, 2015, at 11:43 >> > AM, JD Townsend via 
humanser >  <humanser at nfbnet.org> > 
wrote: > >> > >  >  >  > Hello Kaiti & 
All: >  > >  > Interesting >  question.Ã‚ >> I do 
work in a hospital and precautions are >  > 
always an issue. > >> > >  > My questions 
are: >  > Do >  other staff wear street shoes 
or >> cover them with booties? >  > Do other 
staff wear full body coverings >> or >  are pants 
exposed? >  > >  > Alcohol wipes are always 
present >> in > hospitals.Ã‚  A clean wipe of 
my >  > white >  cane would provide >> much 
better protection than the exposure >  to >  > my 
shoes or pants >> and much better >  protection 
than nursing clipboards or >  exposed >> 
hair. >  > >  > According to my best knowledge, 
your white >  cane is >> considered a >  > 
prosthesis, like >  a prostetic leg and as 
such >> there ought be no problem  >  > if it is 
kept as clean as one of >> 
those >  devices. >  > >  > If shoe  >  booties 
are called for, just >> use one for your cane 
tip. >  > >  > I would be more >  concerned >> 
about your music insterments - players and >  > 
the like, and your >> cell 'phone. >  > >  > >  > 
JD Townsend LCSW >  > > Helping the light >> 
dependent to see. >  > >  Daytona Beach, Earth, 
Sol System >  > >  > >> >  > > 
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