[HumanSer] Discussion-What Would You Say?

Sat Sep 14 00:15:02 UTC 2019

 Did they actually tell you Lisa? That’s flat out discrimination. But yes I
was told that not just in a social work related job interview but in
daycare as well. Back then I was not as wise and able to handle things.
This was about 20 years ago probably.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:32 PM Lisa Irving via HumanSer <
humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I have been asked almost all of these questions on various interviews and
> have responded similarly. In my case, the private treatment center
> considered me a "liability". Their misguided discission was annoying and
> their loss.
>
> Lisa Irving
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Christopher L.
> Smith, LMHC, LMFT via HumanSer
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 3:20 PM
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Christopher L. Smith, LMHC, LMFT <Smith at 4mentalhealth.us>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] Discussion-What Would You Say?
>
> With those who I have supervised, I have used a series of spreadsheets. I
> have them keep a detailed log on a pay period by pay period basis of each
> session they have had as well as other related work they have done and the
> supervision they have received. Each line on the spreadsheet corresponds to
> a particular session or other activity. I include other things I want to
> track on these such as revenue from sessions and certain types of
> activities I want to know about, but this is because these double as my
> timesheets and work records, but would not be needed for your purposes. The
> spreadsheet then calculates the totals for the pay period. These
> spreadsheets are not likely to be needed for later recordkeeping but would
> be handy if the hours were audited when you go to get licensed, if the
> supervisor felt you had worked less than you did or if you needed to show
> particular types of hours for a certification (for example, I had to count
> only substance abuse treatment hours when I got my  license as a clinical
> addiction counselor after being licensed in other disciplines).
>
> Then I have another spreadsheet that takes the totals from each pay period
> and calculates a running total (in my state for clinical, supervision and
> admin, but you can track your own) and compares it to the goal so you can
> see how you are progressing to being licensed.
>
> Side comment. Look now at any state that you might think about moving to.
> Get their requirements and track the extra stuff now as it is easier to do
> this as you go than try to recreate it later. Similarly, get the forms a
> supervisor signs to verify hours and have your supervisors complete them in
> addition to the one from your state - these forms are more likely to be
> accepted in the future if you should move and can't find your supervisor.
>
> How can you do your job as a counselor when you are blind?
> This you should be able to answer from the work you have done in class and
> in internship. I also wonder whether this would be a good opening to raise
> any reasonable accommodations that you see you may need to have as the
> supervisor has opened the door.
>
> There are so many visual aspects and cues that you get visually from your
> client. How will you be able to do your job when you cannot see them?
> There is some truth to this but you are also more attuned to other cues
> that other clinicians do not pay as much attention to. Depending on your
> blindness, you may also have some usable vision that the supervisor is
> assuming that you don't have - a good opportunity for some gentle education.
>
> How can you protect yourself if a client is dangerous?
> This would be something I would consider as a potential red flag for the
> setting if you are looking at outpatient work as this should not be a
> regular part of the work. I would use this as something to ask questions
> about. If it is a setting where this is a regular part of the job (as when
> I worked inpatient and restraining patients was not uncommon), what
> training will they provide (there should be some) and how will the
> providers of that training accommodate you?
>
> How can you protect yourself in order not to be taken advantage of by a
> client?
> This really has nothing to do with being blind. How does any clinician not
> get taken advantage of by clients?
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 5:33 PM NFB of TN VP via HumanSer <
> humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Greetings friends.
> >  I hope all is well  with everyone. One question and one question for
> > feedback.
> > First, what have you all used to keep track of your supervision hours
> > for licensure? Did you use an app or create a spreadsheet?
> > Now, my question for feedback. I want to start by saying that I have
> > learned so much from this group over the years. It is many of you on
> > this list and in the Federation that helped me to see that I could
> > begin a new career in life and be successful. I am now working towards
> > licensure and am stating my practice with a temp license in October. I
> > met my new supervisor for my supervision hours. She asked me the
> > following questions and I wonder how you would respond:
> > -How can you do your job as a counselor when you are blind?
> > There are so many visual aspects and cues that you get visually from
> > your client. How will you be able to do your job when you cannot see
> them?
> > How can you protect yourself if a client is dangerous?
> > How can you protect yourself in order not to be taken advantage of by
> > a client?
> >
> > I would love to hear what your response would be. I know many of you
> > have had those questions before. What I told her is that I have proven
> > myself by graduating from the top 3 year master’s program in the
> > country. I have excelled in my practicum and internship. I reached
> > clients at my internship that other counselors could not reach. I told
> > her that I have proven to my past supervisors and professors that I
> > actually at times sense things about a client that my sighted peers
> > didn’t. I sense voice pace, pitch, and power. I can tell if they are
> > looking at me or looking away. I can hear a person bouncing up and
> > down their knee or fumbling with their hands. I also told her that it
> > was the fine examples that I have met and learned from from this list
> > and Federation, that demonstrated that we can be social workers,
> > counselors, psychiatrists, psychologists, and be the best in our
> > field.  So, I bragged on you all ;) Anyways, the meeting ended well,
> > and I was able to educate her . But I would love to hear how you all
> > have approached such questions. Thank you again for your thoughts and
> wisdom!
> > Warmly,
> >
> >
> > James Alan Boehm M.Ed, NCC
> >
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