[il-talk] New I Phone user

Nikki daizies304 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 26 04:11:03 UTC 2013 

    I used to. The last chapter meeting I attended was just last month to 
say goodbye to Debbie. I moved to Quincy November 21st. I don't know what 
kind of help I'm able to get down here. I haven't been able to contact Kathy 
Randal because I heard she's in Florida until the spring. Other than that, 
I'm isolated down here.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:55 PM
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user

Nikki,

I'm sure I dialed at least 40 or 50 wrong calls. Don't sweat it. It's all 
part of the learning curve.

Do you live in the Chicago area? If so, did you go to the Chicago meetings?



> On Dec 25, 2013, at 21:13, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Wow! Sounds complex. Um. I think I'll let my Apple expert uncle mess 
> with this when he returns from Colorodo. I have already made a phone call 
> I didn't plan to make and I don't want to do that again. LOL!
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:48 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Nikki,
>

> No, but you can place those unwanted apps into a folder and move it out of 
> you way to a different screen.
>
> The way you create a folder is by dragging one icon on top of another. 
> This is maybe a little more difficult for people without vision, but I'll 
> describe it as best as I can.
>
> First identify where the icons are that you wish to put in the folder.
>
> Then double tsp and hold down the first icon you want to move for about 
> two seconds.
>
> Move it on top of the other icon and release it. That is take your finger 
> off of it.
>
> If you move your finger towards the top of the folder you'll find a text 
> label which you can edit. Usually VoiceOver will read the label of the 
> folder so you know what text string you're looking for.
>
> If you move your finger to the right of the folder label "text box" that 
> holds the label for the folder you are creating you will encounter a 
> "clear text" icon. When you hover over that icon it will say "clear text".
>
> Once you have created your text label. Press the home button to commit the 
> text change for the folder labeled. Then tap at the bottom of the screen 
> to close the folder.
>
> With that you have created your first folder.
>
> To remove an icon for an app out of a folder double tap and hold to move 
> the icon out-of-the-box towards the bottom of the screen and hold it's 
> there for five seconds.
>
> VoiceOver will provide pretty good audio feedback throughout this process.
>
> I know this was a lot to take in. It will require some practice. With a 
> moderate amount of practice field mail this very quickly.
>
> I made mistakes and thought I messed things up several times just as you 
> will. Don't look at the mistake is being a setback, but rather just a step 
> towards your ultimate success.
>
> --
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>
>> On Dec 25, 2013, at 18:31, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow! I actually tried it and it helps. Thanks. I do have a question. Can 
>> I remove apps that came on the phone that I don't use and obviously don't 
>> want? Like "stocks, face time, notes,"etc. They just get in my way. I 
>> don't even know if I want to keep I tunes store or Pass time.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:08 PM
>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>> Cc: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>
>> Nikki,
>>
>> Let me suggest an alternative method.
>>
>> Instead of double tapping. Find the key or button you want and hold your 
>> finger on that key. Then tap anywhere else on the screen with a second 
>> finger.
>>
>> Let's say you want to strike the letter "a". Find and hold your finger 
>> the letter "a" while striking somewhere else is being with the second 
>> Finger.
>>
>> The second finger you use can be from either hand. Whichever is more 
>> convenient.
>>
>> This method also is very convenient for unlocking your phone. Place one 
>> finger on the unlock slider at the bottom of the screen and then strikes 
>> somewhere else on the screen with the second finger to unlock your phone.
>>
>> I hope these tips help you out a lot. I wish you and yours a Merry 
>> Christmas.
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2013, at 14:56, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> Ok. I've been trying to compose text messages without seeking sighted 
>>> help. II' am figuring it out. At one point I changed the layout from 
>>> landscape to portrait and I didn't even know how I did that and it 
>>> totally confused me. LOL! I can't seem to double tap fast enough. Is 
>>> there a way I can alter that? Why do things move on you? It's 
>>> weird.Maybe it's my fingers double tapping somewhere else and I don't 
>>> know it. LOL! I really want to master this and show my mom she didn't 
>>> waste her money. Just pray for me please.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Howerton
>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:02 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> I personally prefer answering the phone with the ear buds. IN that way 
>>> you press eht center part to answer and disconnect. The other sides of 
>>> the ear bud wire are for volume. And Voiceover will continue to talk 
>>> while you are on the phone on a call unless you can turn it off.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 11:28 AM
>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>

>>> My voice isn't exactly clear enough for that. Um. I just think it's 
>>> going to take some practice. I played with it a little bit ago and am 
>>> finding that my fingers aren't small enough or some options are too 
>>> close together. IDK. I'm figuring it out though and it excites me. I 
>>> haven't had a need to make a phone call yet, but I'm wondering how I'm 
>>> going to be able to find the answer button and be able to hear Voice 
>>> Over with the phone ringing. Maybe just put it on vibrate? I do have one 
>>> problem. The double tap to open is delayed or something because when I 
>>> hit "Phone" twice it does nothing but repeat "Phone double tap to open." 
>>> So then I'm forcing my finger to shake over "Phone" in hopes that it 
>>> opens. Sometimes it opens, but most of the time it repeats it self. LOL! 
>>> Is there something in settings where I can slow down the double tapping?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:40 AM
>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> Try using Siri as much as you can if you have dexterity problems.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:10 PM
>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> More? Oh boy! Whatever do you mean? Do you think if I bought a cover it 
>>> would help? IDK. I'm new at this.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:49 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> There is a lot more to it than that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:40 PM

>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> I hope so because when it says double tap to open, it's like I have to 
>>> force my fingers to shake semi-violent and hope it hits thethe app I 
>>> want.
>>> Someone on one of the other mailing lists sent me a recording of him 
>>> using his I Phone. He made it sound so easy. Like once you hit a number 
>>> on the keypad and it's one you want, then just touch anywhere else on 
>>> the screen.
>>> He said Voice Over is only concerned with the last thing you touched.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:14 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> There may be an accessability setting that may help you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:21 PM
>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> I'm slowly getting it. LOL! I have shaky wrists that cause my fingers to 
>>> shake. So it's a little harder for me. Anyway. My uncle is an Apple 
>>> expert and he lives close by. Thank God.  He turned on Voice Over for 
>>> me. I just moved from Elgin to Quincy.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:15 AM
>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> Nicole, I hope the store set Voiceover for you through settings, general 
>>> and accessibility. When the phone freezes, sometimes it's best to shut 
>>> down altogether with the power button which is on the top right. You 
>>> have to hold it down for several seconds. You also hold it down for a 
>>> few seconds to power back up and it takes a good minute in my experience 
>>> for the phone to power back up again. The home key which is the round 
>>> one at the bottom of the phone is your go to key for lots of things. I 
>>> made you an offer of someone to help you. And yes, a lot of us who are 
>>> totally blind use and love the phone. It does take work at first.
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:51 PM
>>> To: il-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> I can’t figure out how to unlock the screen. It’s stuck on the camera. 
>>> My son tells me the screen is gray. All it does is click at me. Which 
>>> button is the power button? Ugh! I’m so lost. I just got the phone 
>>> today, for my birthday. Can all blind individuals use one?
>>>
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