[il-talk] New I Phone user
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Tue Dec 31 23:36:16 UTC 2013
Nikki,
Please contact me off list at chr47 at mchsi.com
Cathy Randall
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Howerton
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 9:42 PM
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
Yes, she is.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 25, 2013, at 10:11 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I used to. The last chapter meeting I attended was just last month to
> say goodbye to Debbie. I moved to Quincy November 21st. I don't know what
> kind of help I'm able to get down here. I haven't been able to contact
> Kathy Randal because I heard she's in Florida until the spring. Other than
> that, I'm isolated down here.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:55 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Nikki,
>
> I'm sure I dialed at least 40 or 50 wrong calls. Don't sweat it. It's all
> part of the learning curve.
>
> Do you live in the Chicago area? If so, did you go to the Chicago
> meetings?
>
>
>
>> On Dec 25, 2013, at 21:13, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow! Sounds complex. Um. I think I'll let my Apple expert uncle mess
>> with this when he returns from Colorodo. I have already made a phone call
>> I didn't plan to make and I don't want to do that again. LOL!
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:48 PM
>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>
>> Nikki,
>
>> No, but you can place those unwanted apps into a folder and move it out
>> of you way to a different screen.
>>
>> The way you create a folder is by dragging one icon on top of another.
>> This is maybe a little more difficult for people without vision, but I'll
>> describe it as best as I can.
>>
>> First identify where the icons are that you wish to put in the folder.
>>
>> Then double tsp and hold down the first icon you want to move for about
>> two seconds.
>>
>> Move it on top of the other icon and release it. That is take your finger
>> off of it.
>>
>> If you move your finger towards the top of the folder you'll find a text
>> label which you can edit. Usually VoiceOver will read the label of the
>> folder so you know what text string you're looking for.
>>
>> If you move your finger to the right of the folder label "text box" that
>> holds the label for the folder you are creating you will encounter a
>> "clear text" icon. When you hover over that icon it will say "clear
>> text".
>>
>> Once you have created your text label. Press the home button to commit
>> the text change for the folder labeled. Then tap at the bottom of the
>> screen to close the folder.
>>
>> With that you have created your first folder.
>>
>> To remove an icon for an app out of a folder double tap and hold to move
>> the icon out-of-the-box towards the bottom of the screen and hold it's
>> there for five seconds.
>>
>> VoiceOver will provide pretty good audio feedback throughout this
>> process.
>>
>> I know this was a lot to take in. It will require some practice. With a
>> moderate amount of practice field mail this very quickly.
>>
>> I made mistakes and thought I messed things up several times just as you
>> will. Don't look at the mistake is being a setback, but rather just a
>> step towards your ultimate success.
>>
>> --
>> 73 & 75
>> Gregory D. Rosenberg (AB9MZ)
>> gregg at ricis.com
>> RICIS, Inc.
>> +1 708-267-6664 Cell
>> +1 708-444-2690 Office
>> +1 708-444-1115 Fax (Call first)
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 25, 2013, at 18:31, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow! I actually tried it and it helps. Thanks. I do have a question. Can
>>> I remove apps that came on the phone that I don't use and obviously
>>> don't want? Like "stocks, face time, notes,"etc. They just get in my
>>> way. I don't even know if I want to keep I tunes store or Pass time.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:08 PM
>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Cc: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>
>>> Nikki,
>>>
>>> Let me suggest an alternative method.
>>>
>>> Instead of double tapping. Find the key or button you want and hold your
>>> finger on that key. Then tap anywhere else on the screen with a second
>>> finger.
>>>
>>> Let's say you want to strike the letter "a". Find and hold your finger
>>> the letter "a" while striking somewhere else is being with the second
>>> Finger.
>>>
>>> The second finger you use can be from either hand. Whichever is more
>>> convenient.
>>>
>>> This method also is very convenient for unlocking your phone. Place one
>>> finger on the unlock slider at the bottom of the screen and then strikes
>>> somewhere else on the screen with the second finger to unlock your
>>> phone.
>>>
>>> I hope these tips help you out a lot. I wish you and yours a Merry
>>> Christmas.
>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2013, at 14:56, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Ok. I've been trying to compose text messages without seeking sighted
>>>> help. II' am figuring it out. At one point I changed the layout from
>>>> landscape to portrait and I didn't even know how I did that and it
>>>> totally confused me. LOL! I can't seem to double tap fast enough. Is
>>>> there a way I can alter that? Why do things move on you? It's
>>>> weird.Maybe it's my fingers double tapping somewhere else and I don't
>>>> know it. LOL! I really want to master this and show my mom she didn't
>>>> waste her money. Just pray for me please.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Howerton
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:02 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> I personally prefer answering the phone with the ear buds. IN that way
>>>> you press eht center part to answer and disconnect. The other sides of
>>>> the ear bud wire are for volume. And Voiceover will continue to talk
>>>> while you are on the phone on a call unless you can turn it off.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 11:28 AM
>>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
>>>> My voice isn't exactly clear enough for that. Um. I just think it's
>>>> going to take some practice. I played with it a little bit ago and am
>>>> finding that my fingers aren't small enough or some options are too
>>>> close together. IDK. I'm figuring it out though and it excites me. I
>>>> haven't had a need to make a phone call yet, but I'm wondering how I'm
>>>> going to be able to find the answer button and be able to hear Voice
>>>> Over with the phone ringing. Maybe just put it on vibrate? I do have
>>>> one problem. The double tap to open is delayed or something because
>>>> when I hit "Phone" twice it does nothing but repeat "Phone double tap
>>>> to open." So then I'm forcing my finger to shake over "Phone" in hopes
>>>> that it opens. Sometimes it opens, but most of the time it repeats it
>>>> self. LOL! Is there something in settings where I can slow down the
>>>> double tapping?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:40 AM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> Try using Siri as much as you can if you have dexterity problems.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:10 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> More? Oh boy! Whatever do you mean? Do you think if I bought a cover it
>>>> would help? IDK. I'm new at this.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:49 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> There is a lot more to it than that.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:40 PM
>
>>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> I hope so because when it says double tap to open, it's like I have to
>>>> force my fingers to shake semi-violent and hope it hits thethe app I
>>>> want.
>>>> Someone on one of the other mailing lists sent me a recording of him
>>>> using his I Phone. He made it sound so easy. Like once you hit a number
>>>> on the keypad and it's one you want, then just touch anywhere else on
>>>> the screen.
>>>> He said Voice Over is only concerned with the last thing you touched.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:14 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> There may be an accessability setting that may help you.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:21 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> I'm slowly getting it. LOL! I have shaky wrists that cause my fingers
>>>> to shake. So it's a little harder for me. Anyway. My uncle is an Apple
>>>> expert and he lives close by. Thank God. He turned on Voice Over for
>>>> me. I just moved from Elgin to Quincy.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sharon Howerton
>>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:15 AM
>>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> Nicole, I hope the store set Voiceover for you through settings,
>>>> general and accessibility. When the phone freezes, sometimes it's best
>>>> to shut down altogether with the power button which is on the top
>>>> right. You have to hold it down for several seconds. You also hold it
>>>> down for a few seconds to power back up and it takes a good minute in
>>>> my experience for the phone to power back up again. The home key which
>>>> is the round one at the bottom of the phone is your go to key for lots
>>>> of things. I made you an offer of someone to help you. And yes, a lot
>>>> of us who are totally blind use and love the phone. It does take work
>>>> at first.
>>>> Sharon
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:51 PM
>>>> To: il-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>>>>
>>>> I can’t figure out how to unlock the screen. It’s stuck on the camera.
>>>> My son tells me the screen is gray. All it does is click at me. Which
>>>> button is the power button? Ugh! I’m so lost. I just got the phone
>>>> today, for my birthday. Can all blind individuals use one?
>>>>
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