[il-talk] New I Phone user

Nikki daizies304 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 10 23:40:09 UTC 2014 

    Kathy Randal gave me Patricia Bissel as a start. I just finished 
emailing her. IDK if she lives here in Quincy. Would you know?

-----Original Message----- 
From: pattischang at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:18 PM
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user

Maybe we can find someone on the list was close enough to you. Any 
volunteers?


Patti S. Gregory-Chang
NFBI President
NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:08 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:

  Wow! I really wish I could take advantage of this. I moved from Elgin to 
Quincy in November.

-----Original Message----- From: Sean Ziadeh
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:11 PM
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user

Nikki,

I too am a recent owner of an IPhone.  I am high-partial, but quickly 
realized that with the small screen on the IPhone, I will also need to 
change how I use a cell phone.  I am already frustrated, but I do think at 
the end of the day, a smartphone will be an essential tool for being 
connected in this highly technical era.

Perhaps we could take advantage of some of the popele in the Chicago Chapter 
to help us in a group setting.

> From: shrnhow at gmail.com
> To: il-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:02:11 -0600
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Go to
> Hadley.edu/seminar
> Where you look for past seminars
> Or we have several sessions on our YouTube channel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:59 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> I don't understand what Pod casts are. What is the website that will 
> direct me to the Podcasts? I went to hadley.edu and it displayed the links 
> to the latest seminars, programs, and announcements,  but nothing about 
> podcasts.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Webb
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:25 PM
> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Have you tried any of the training podcasts offered by Hadley?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:23 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Problem is there's no chapter in Quincy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pattischang at gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:07 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Cc: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Don't give up. We were all frustrated when we started. Why don't you 
> appear at a chapter meeting so that some of us  can work with you one on 
> one. Or, there is good tech-support at second sense. I know you can do 
> this.
>
>
> Patti S. Gregory-Chang
> NFBI President
> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2014, at 2:16 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  An update. I'm finding that I don't like the phone. It is hard for me to 
> use. Not because of my shaky fingers, but because it's so hard to 
> navigate.
> Meaning IDK how to swipe up or down to reveal the custom action. I can't 
> find the edit or delete buttons when trying to clear history; the missed 
> and outgoing calls. If I try swiping, I risk the possibility of calling 
> those numbers and my intentions were to clear the numbers. And let's say 
> you are on the phone and there's an automated answering service, Like 
> press 1 to do this, press 2 to do that. Well ... My phone goes into 
> speaker phone mode and while the operator is giving instructions, I can't 
> hear V O. Ugh! I haven't used the phone since I got it and I am starting 
> to think it was a mistake.
> Part of me wants to keep it and learn, prove to my mom she didn't waste 
> her money, but then there's these issues that discourage me.
> I only called 1 person and it was an immediate call back because I didn't 
> know how to answer. IDK. I can call out, but not answer. LOL! I haven't 
> figured out how to send a text message yet.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: chr47 at mchsi.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:36 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Nikki,
>
> Please contact me off list at chr47 at mchsi.com
>
>              Cathy Randall
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Howerton
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 9:42 PM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
>
> Yes, she is.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 25, 2013, at 10:11 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I used to. The last chapter meeting I attended was just last month to
> > say goodbye to Debbie. I moved to Quincy November 21st. I don't know
> > what kind of help I'm able to get down here. I haven't been able to
> > contact Kathy Randal because I heard she's in Florida until the
> > spring. Other than that, I'm isolated down here.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:55 PM
> > To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >
> > Nikki,
> >
> > I'm sure I dialed at least 40 or 50 wrong calls. Don't sweat it. It's
> > all part of the learning curve.
> >
> > Do you live in the Chicago area? If so, did you go to the Chicago
> > meetings?
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 25, 2013, at 21:13, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow! Sounds complex. Um. I think I'll let my Apple expert uncle mess
> >> with this when he returns from Colorodo. I have already made a phone
> >> call I didn't plan to make and I don't want to do that again. LOL!
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:48 PM
> >> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>
> >> Nikki,
> >
> >> No, but you can place those unwanted apps into a folder and move it
> >> out of you way to a different screen.
> >>
> >> The way you create a folder is by dragging one icon on top of another.
> >> This is maybe a little more difficult for people without vision, but
> >> I'll describe it as best as I can.
> >>
> >> First identify where the icons are that you wish to put in the folder.
> >>
> >> Then double tsp and hold down the first icon you want to move for
> >> about two seconds.
> >>
> >> Move it on top of the other icon and release it. That is take your
> >> finger off of it.
> >>
> >> If you move your finger towards the top of the folder you'll find a
> >> text label which you can edit. Usually VoiceOver will read the label
> >> of the folder so you know what text string you're looking for.
> >>
> >> If you move your finger to the right of the folder label "text box"
> >> that holds the label for the folder you are creating you will
> >> encounter a "clear text" icon. When you hover over that icon it will
> >> say "clear text".
> >>
> >> Once you have created your text label. Press the home button to
> >> commit the text change for the folder labeled. Then tap at the bottom
> >> of the screen to close the folder.
> >>
> >> With that you have created your first folder.
> >>
> >> To remove an icon for an app out of a folder double tap and hold to
> >> move the icon out-of-the-box towards the bottom of the screen and
> >> hold it's there for five seconds.
> >>
> >> VoiceOver will provide pretty good audio feedback throughout this
> >> process.
> >>
> >> I know this was a lot to take in. It will require some practice. With
> >> a moderate amount of practice field mail this very quickly.
> >>
> >> I made mistakes and thought I messed things up several times just as
> >> you will. Don't look at the mistake is being a setback, but rather
> >> just a step towards your ultimate success.
> >>
> >> --
> >> 73 & 75
> >> Gregory D. Rosenberg (AB9MZ)
> >> gregg at ricis.com
> >> RICIS, Inc.
> >> +1 708-267-6664 Cell
> >> +1 708-444-2690 Office
> >> +1 708-444-1115 Fax (Call first)
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 25, 2013, at 18:31, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Wow! I actually tried it and it helps. Thanks. I do have a question.
> >>> Can I remove apps that came on the phone that I don't use and
> >>> obviously don't want? Like "stocks, face time, notes,"etc. They just
> >>> get in my way. I don't even know if I want to keep I tunes store or
> >>> Pass time.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Gregory D. Rosenberg
> >
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:08 PM
> >>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>> Cc: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>
> >>> Nikki,
> >>>
> >>> Let me suggest an alternative method.
> >>>
> >>> Instead of double tapping. Find the key or button you want and hold
> >>> your finger on that key. Then tap anywhere else on the screen with a
> >>> second finger.
> >>>
> >>> Let's say you want to strike the letter "a". Find and hold your
> >>> finger the letter "a" while striking somewhere else is being with
> >>> the second Finger.
> >>>
> >>> The second finger you use can be from either hand. Whichever is more
> >>> convenient.
> >>>
> >>> This method also is very convenient for unlocking your phone. Place
> >>> one finger on the unlock slider at the bottom of the screen and then
> >>> strikes somewhere else on the screen with the second finger to
> >>> unlock your phone.
> >>>
> >>> I hope these tips help you out a lot. I wish you and yours a Merry
> >>> Christmas.
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 24, 2013, at 14:56, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok. I've been trying to compose text messages without seeking
> >>>> sighted help. II' am figuring it out. At one point I changed the
> >>>> layout from landscape to portrait and I didn't even know how I did
> >>>> that and it totally confused me. LOL! I can't seem to double tap
> >>>> fast enough. Is there a way I can alter that? Why do things move on
> >>>> you? It's weird.Maybe it's my fingers double tapping somewhere else
> >>>> and I don't know it. LOL! I really want to master this and show my
> >>>> mom she didn't waste her money. Just pray for me please.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Howerton
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:02 PM
> >>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> I personally prefer answering the phone with the ear buds. IN that
> >>>> way you press eht center part to answer and disconnect. The other
> >>>> sides of the ear bud wire are for volume. And Voiceover will
> >>>> continue to talk while you are on the phone on a call unless you
> >>>> can turn it off.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Nikki
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 11:28 AM
> >>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >
> >>>> My voice isn't exactly clear enough for that. Um. I just think it's
> >>>> going to take some practice. I played with it a little bit ago and
> >>>> am finding that my fingers aren't small enough or some options are
> >>>> too close together. IDK. I'm figuring it out though and it excites
> >>>> me. I haven't had a need to make a phone call yet, but I'm
> >>>> wondering how I'm going to be able to find the answer button and be
> >>>> able to hear Voice Over with the phone ringing. Maybe just put it
> >>>> on vibrate? I do have one problem. The double tap to open is
> >>>> delayed or something because when I hit "Phone" twice it does
> >>>> nothing but repeat "Phone double tap to open." So then I'm forcing
> >>>> my finger to shake over "Phone" in hopes that it opens. Sometimes
> >>>> it opens, but most of the time it repeats it self. LOL! Is there
> >>>> something in settings where I can slow down the double tapping?
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sharon Howerton
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:40 AM
> >>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> Try using Siri as much as you can if you have dexterity problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Nikki
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:10 PM
> >>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> More? Oh boy! Whatever do you mean? Do you think if I bought a
> >>>> cover it would help? IDK. I'm new at this.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sharon Howerton
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:49 PM
> >>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a lot more to it than that.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Nikki
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:40 PM
> >
> >>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope so because when it says double tap to open, it's like I have
> >>>> to force my fingers to shake semi-violent and hope it hits thethe
> >>>> app I want.
> >>>> Someone on one of the other mailing lists sent me a recording of
> >>>> him using his I Phone. He made it sound so easy. Like once you hit
> >>>> a number on the keypad and it's one you want, then just touch
> >>>> anywhere else on the screen.
> >>>> He said Voice Over is only concerned with the last thing you touched.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sharon Howerton
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:14 PM
> >>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> There may be an accessability setting that may help you.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Nikki
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:21 PM
> >>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm slowly getting it. LOL! I have shaky wrists that cause my
> >>>> fingers to shake. So it's a little harder for me. Anyway. My uncle
> >>>> is an Apple expert and he lives close by. Thank God.  He turned on
> >>>> Voice Over for me. I just moved from Elgin to Quincy.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sharon Howerton
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:15 AM
> >>>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicole, I hope the store set Voiceover for you through settings,
> >>>> general and accessibility. When the phone freezes, sometimes it's
> >>>> best to shut down altogether with the power button which is on the
> >>>> top right. You have to hold it down for several seconds. You also
> >>>> hold it down for a few seconds to power back up and it takes a good
> >>>> minute in my experience for the phone to power back up again. The
> >>>> home key which is the round one at the bottom of the phone is your
> >>>> go to key for lots of things. I made you an offer of someone to
> >>>> help you. And yes, a lot of us who are totally blind use and love
> >>>> the phone. It does take work at first.
> >>>> Sharon
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Nikki
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:51 PM
> >>>> To: il-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>> Subject: [il-talk] New I Phone user
> >>>>
> >>>> I can’t figure out how to unlock the screen. It’s stuck on the >>>> 
> >>>> camera.
> >>>> My son tells me the screen is gray. All it does is click at me.
> >>>> Which button is the power button? Ugh! I’m so lost. I just got the
> >>>> phone today, for my birthday. Can all blind individuals use one?
> >>>>
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