[IL-Talk] IL-Talk Digest, Vol 235, Issue 7

Thu Nov 9 19:55:32 UTC 2023

Good afternoon everyone,

My imune system is only at 80% and I have had several eye hemherages over the past few months. Which is why I haven’t been around. I have been using a walker to get around my house many days of the week. I am still dealing with a post 2nd COVID-19 vacine reaction that is causing swelling (oberbed by hearing strider) in my upper respiratory track. It doesn’t help that I have had alergic reactions to all the medications they have tried so far. I hope to see everyone at least on Zoom in January or February and beyond.

17.1.1 is out. I checked the developer release notes and there wasn’t any mention of the UIKit (the thing that makes the buttons on the screen) having any isues. I have 23 Apple devices running a variety of versions of their operating system. I did not see any issues on 17.1 on an iPhone 12 Pro or 13 Pro Max on 17.1. There are a couple of issues I will share.

1) There is an intermitant bug that reports a “SIM Error”. If you phone uses an eSIM rather than a physical SIM you likely won’t see this issue. I have physical SIMs in both devices and solved the problem by going into “Airplane Mode” from the control center and then turning it off after a few seconds. I am testing this issue with 17.1.1 over the next 2 days to see if it fixed the issue and Apple just didn’t want to share their dirty laundry.

2) 17.1 was causing a higher battery drain that 17.0.3. Unless you have a reason to go to 17.1, such as you upgraded to an iPhone 15 which requires it, I would stay on 17.0.3 for at least the next few weeks. We have a few more BETAs for 17.2 before it is released in mod tp late December. I am running that on two test devices.

3) 17.2 Does yield Apple’s jounaling app. To my dismay it isn’t being made available on iPadOS and MacOS, which is unfortunately. As if one is using the journalling app you would want access to it on all desktop and mobile computing devices.

4) If my testing with 17.2 goes good I will likely install the release candidate on my production devices.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Problems with apple 17.1 update (pattischang at gmail.com)
   2. Re: Problems with apple 17.1 update (Leslie Hamric)
   3. Re: Problems with apple 17.1 update (Joshua Hendrickson)

   4. Re: FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted! (Linda Hendle)
   5. Re: Problems with apple 17.1 update (dan.tevelde at comcast.net)
   6. Re: FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!
      (Robert Gardner)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 07:40:52 -0600
From: <pattischang at gmail.com>
To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update
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I have updated and do not see these issues. I suggest you delete and
reinstall the BARD ap. 

You are appreciated and I thank you so much for all that you do.

Patti Chang Esq.
(m) 773-307-6440

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Subject: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update

Hello Everyone,

If you have updated your I-Phone to 17.1 and you have the BARD app on your
phone, please see if you have all the buttons on your BARD screen when
listening to a book.  Also see if you can change the speed of a book.  If
you can give feedback on these issues I would appreciate it.  Apple does not
want to own up to the problems their updates are causing.

Debbie P

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 07:47:05 -0600
From: Leslie Hamric <lhamric930 at comcast.net>
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update
Message-ID: <B9D9D971-D22F-47F7-BA32-D54C40AE4B17 at comcast.net>
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I just updated and have not had any problems.
Leslie Hamric
Cello and Braille Music Teacher

On Nov 7, 2023, at 11:04?PM, Debbie Pittman via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

?Hello Everyone,

If you have updated your I-Phone to 17.1 and you have the BARD app on your phone, please see if you have all the buttons on your BARD screen when listening to a book.  Also see if you can change the speed of a book.  If you can give feedback on these issues I would appreciate it.  Apple does not want to own up to the problems their updates are causing.

Debbie P

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 09:44:26 -0600
From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com>
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update
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Debbie.  I have updated my iPhone 13 pro max to 17;.1 and I can see

all the buttons on the play screen of bard mobile.  You also might
want to reinitialize your bard mobile in settings, and login to bard.
Good luck.

On 11/8/23, Leslie Hamric via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I just updated and have not had any problems.
Leslie Hamric
Cello and Braille Music Teacher

On Nov 7, 2023, at 11:04?PM, Debbie Pittman via IL-Talk
<il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

?Hello Everyone,

If you have updated your I-Phone to 17.1 and you have the BARD app on your
phone, please see if you have all the buttons on your BARD screen when
listening to a book.  Also see if you can change the speed of a book.  If
you can give feedback on these issues I would appreciate it.  Apple does
not want to own up to the problems their updates are causing.

Debbie P

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 10:31:05 -0600
From: "Linda Hendle" <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!
Message-ID: <004301da1260$f98ae240$eca0a6c0$@sbcglobal.net>
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Hi Bob,
What a great story!  You deserved to win first place!  Keep up the good
work!
Linda

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Cc: Robert Gardner <rgardner4 at gmail.com>
Subject: [IL-Talk] FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!

For those of you that wanted a link or some kind of path to where my story
that won 1st place in the short fiction contest within the magazine, Magnets
and Ladders,  I'm sending you the magazine below. You should be able to
track down the story within it. 

Thank you for your interest, 
Bob

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 10:53:37 -0600
From: <dan.tevelde at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update
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Hi Debbie,

I just installed today's update and don't see any issues with BARD Mobile. I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro. When people find bugs with software updates, they are often only found on certain individual devices. I know the BARD app can be temperamental and not work. In addition to the suggestions others have provided I might recommend rebooting your phone. If you do decide to reinstall BARD Mobile, you will need to keep track of the books you currently have on your phone because they will be removed. You can look in your previously downloaded list to find them again though. NLS is working on a new version of BARD Mobile but it's not available yet. I hope you get your issue straightened out. Let me know if you need any help and I can walk you through the process.

Dan

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From: IL-Talk <il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson via IL-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:44 AM
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Cc: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Problems with apple 17.1 update

Debbie.  I have updated my iPhone 13 pro max to 17;.1 and I can see all the buttons on the play screen of bard mobile.  You also might want to reinitialize your bard mobile in settings, and login to bard.
Good luck.

On 11/8/23, Leslie Hamric via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I just updated and have not had any problems.
Leslie Hamric
Cello and Braille Music Teacher

On Nov 7, 2023, at 11:04?PM, Debbie Pittman via IL-Talk 
<il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

?Hello Everyone,

If you have updated your I-Phone to 17.1 and you have the BARD app on 

your phone, please see if you have all the buttons on your BARD 
screen when listening to a book.  Also see if you can change the 

speed of a book.  If you can give feedback on these issues I would 
appreciate it.  Apple does not want to own up to the problems their updates are causing.

Debbie P

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 16:13:47 -0600
From: "Robert Gardner" <rgardner4 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!
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Thanks, Linda! 

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Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!

Hi Bob,
What a great story!  You deserved to win first place!  Keep up the good
work!
Linda

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Cc: Robert Gardner <rgardner4 at gmail.com>
Subject: [IL-Talk] FW: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!

For those of you that wanted a link or some kind of path to where my story
that won 1st place in the short fiction contest within the magazine, Magnets
and Ladders,  I'm sending you the magazine below. You should be able to
track down the story within it. 

Thank you for your interest,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Magnets and Ladders <submissions at magnetsandladders.org> 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 9:48 PM
To: rgardner4 at gmail.com
Subject: Fall/Winter Magnets and Ladders is posted!

This message is to inform you that the Fall/Winter 2023-2024 edition of
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