From shellykane323 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 09:36:48 2021
From: shellykane323 at gmail.com (Shelly Kane)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 02:36:48 -0700
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job
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Misty:


Thanks for the information.? If you hear anything about these companies, 
please keep me posted and I will do the same.? That might be interesting 
talking with someone to help them practice English.? I did see a company 
on line and it was teaching kids.? I forgot the name of it but you have 
to have a camera on the computer so they can see you.? To me, that 
sounds very difficult and since being blind, it may be hard for us to 
read the curriculum that they provide for us.

Shelly

On 2/28/2021 9:59 AM, Misty Dawn Bradley via Job-Discussions wrote:
> Hi Shelley,
> I just looked into the teaching jobs for ESL yesterday and found that 
> a lot of them do require a bachelors degree but there are a few that 
> don?t. I think there is one called Cambly that doesn?t require a 
> degree but haven?t gotten to really look into it yet. I don?t know how 
> accessible it is but I guess I won?t know until I try it. Maybe you 
> could look into it to to see if it would be a good fit. I came across 
> another company last night called nice talk that also does ESL 
> tutoring online but it is based on just talking with the person you?re 
> tutoring so they can practice their English, so you don?t really have 
> to have a formal curriculum. I plan to look into that one also.
>
>
> Misty Bradley
> MistyDBradley at gmail.com
> https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 3:11 AM, Shelly Kane via Job-Discussions 
>> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Nicole:
>>
>>
>> After reading this thread, I am definitely interested in learning 
>> more about teaching English to children in other countries.? I was 
>> wondering, do you need a college education?? Do you need experience 
>> teaching?? Also, if I were to search for companies, what would I type 
>> in to do it on the phone?? I'm totally blind and I think the phone 
>> would work best for me.? Thanks in advance.? I'm trained in the 
>> secretarial field but have decided to try something different.
>>
>> Shelly
>>
>> On 2/27/2021 8:35 PM, Nicole Poston via Job-Discussions wrote:
>>> Just a suggestion or two but based upon what you have shared, have 
>>> you considered working online teaching English as a second language 
>>> to children and adults in China or other foreign countries?? There 
>>> are lots of different companies out there that do this and you could 
>>> do this from home.? It would fit right in with your ESL experience.? 
>>> I'm not sure if every one of them is accessible but I think with a 
>>> little research you could find one that is.? I think there is even 
>>> one out there where you do it by phone, which might eliminate 
>>> accessibility issues.? Another option but which would require you to 
>>> go somewhere is checking local school systems.? They might be 
>>> looking for tutors, maybe even ESL tutors.? Depending on your typing 
>>> ability, you could also look into transcription.? If you look 
>>> around, there are some that are entry level and then once you got 
>>> some experience, you could always switch to a different one to make 
>>> more money.? This can also be done at home.
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Misty Dawn Bradley via Job-Discussions 
>>> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: Job-Discussions at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: mistydbradley at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2021 12:39 pm
>>> Subject: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I am currently searching for a new job and I am looking for advice. 
>>> As for my current job, some circumstances have come up to where I 
>>> need to quit as soon as I can Due to factors in the environment that 
>>> are causing health issues for me. I currently work in a production 
>>> facility that gives jobs to the blind and visually impaired making 
>>> things for the military. I would like to get out of that? line of 
>>> work and get a job in a more main stream field. As far as my 
>>> education, I have an associates degree in general studies. as far as 
>>> my work experience, I served part time in AmeriCorps State and 
>>> National for a nine month program as an ESL tutor and did a work 
>>> study at my local community college in the field of accessibility 
>>> for e-learning. I have had two positions at two different production 
>>> plants mainly hiring the blind and visually impaired as a sewing 
>>> machine operator.
>>> I am taking this next week off to apply for jobs, but I am having 
>>> difficulty knowing where even to start, as a lot of jobs I have 
>>> looked at require vision. A lot of the retail jobs require you to 
>>> check out people at registers or use proprietary systems that are 
>>> not accessible. Some of the job descriptions even stated that you 
>>> need a good visual acuity to do that particular job. The ones that 
>>> don?t require vision tend to require more experience than what I 
>>> have. Even most of the customer service jobs I have looked at 
>>> require at least six months to a year of customer service experience 
>>> even for entry level jobs. I thought about Office jobs, such as 
>>> being a secretary or something like that, but I wonder how I would 
>>> handle paperwork. I know some of it you can scan, but there are some 
>>> forms that you would have to fill out by hand so I wonder how that 
>>> would work as a blind or visually impaired person that has trouble 
>>> filling out forms myself. I am interested in a work at home position 
>>> if possible, but I would take an on site position as well.
>>> Does anyone on this list have any ideas of any jobs that are 
>>> accessible yet don?t require more than an associates degree and 
>>> don?t require a lot of experience? if you have gotten a job under 
>>> similar education and experience, what kinds of jobs have you had? 
>>> Are there any tips or advice you would give to someone looking for a 
>>> new job?
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>> Misty Bradley
>>> MistyDBradley at gmail.com <mailto:MistyDBradley at gmail.com>
>>> https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com 
>>> <https://www.journeyingthroughhealing.com/>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Tue Mar  2 20:04:19 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (Dick Davis)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:04:19 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job
In-Reply-To: <YDspiJ8IdIAeyKcc@chrisnestrud.com>
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Hi Misty,

I can offer you general advice, but for more specific advice, I would need
to ask you some questions.  My email is dickblind at gmail.com if you want to
contact me.

1. Look through your college transcript.  Are any of the courses you took
valuable in a real world sense?  Did any of the skills you learned, such
as research, report writing, etc. match some of the responsibilities on
the job description?

2. You cannot assume you won't be able to do a job.  Always call or visit
and ask.  Find out what the responsibilities are in some detail and be
prepared to explain how you could do them.

3. Generic experience requirements are not job killers.  Today, employers
are having to struggle to find qualified people.  Experience may not
matter as much if they are having trouble finding good people.

4. What alternative techniques or technology do you have and are able to
use?  That could be a selling point.

5. The fact that you worked at something is good.  Do not downgrade your
skills or experience.  Use it to wow the employer.  Remember that some
employers will be amazed that you can tie your shoes.

That's a start.  Contact me for more detailed advice.

Dick Davis
dickblind at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Job-Discussions <job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Chris Nestrud via Job-Discussions
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 11:27 PM
To: Job Discussions internet Mailing List <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Chris Nestrud <ccn at chrisnestrud.com>
Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job

Maybe lower level administrative assistant type positions with
local/county/state government.

Chris

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 12:39:54PM -0500, Misty Dawn Bradley via
Job-Discussions wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am currently searching for a new job and I am looking for advice. As
for my current job, some circumstances have come up to where I need to
quit as soon as I can Due to factors in the environment that are causing
health issues for me. I currently work in a production facility that gives
jobs to the blind and visually impaired making things for the military. I
would like to get out of that  line of work and get a job in a more main
stream field. As far as my education, I have an associates degree in
general studies. as far as my work experience, I served part time in
AmeriCorps State and National for a nine month program as an ESL tutor and
did a work study at my local community college in the field of
accessibility for e-learning. I have had two positions at two different
production plants mainly hiring the blind and visually impaired as a
sewing machine operator.
> I am taking this next week off to apply for jobs, but I am having
difficulty knowing where even to start, as a lot of jobs I have looked at
require vision. A lot of the retail jobs require you to check out people
at registers or use proprietary systems that are not accessible. Some of
the job descriptions even stated that you need a good visual acuity to do
that particular job. The ones that don???t require vision tend to require
more experience than what I have. Even most of the customer service jobs I
have looked at require at least six months to a year of customer service
experience even for entry level jobs. I thought about Office jobs, such as
being a secretary or something like that, but I wonder how I would handle
paperwork. I know some of it you can scan, but there are some forms that
you would have to fill out by hand so I wonder how that would work as a
blind or visually impaired person that has trouble filling out forms
myself. I am interested in a work at home position if possible, but I
would take an on site position as well.
> Does anyone on this list have any ideas of any jobs that are accessible
yet don???t require more than an associates degree and don???t require a
lot of experience? if you have gotten a job under similar education and
experience, what kinds of jobs have you had? Are there any tips or advice
you would give to someone looking for a new job?
> Thank you,
>
>
> Misty Bradley
> MistyDBradley at gmail.com
> https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
> Sent from my iPhone
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> isnestrud.com

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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Tue Mar  2 20:15:26 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (Dick Davis)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:15:26 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] FW: Bender Virtual Career Fair for People with
 Disabilities March 2021
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References: <BL0PR16MB2497653E4F9C145A6524F890D49E9@BL0PR16MB2497.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <f7d0b4ca2fb878f8219d5293b9f0e336@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,

This is a Bender Consulting Career Fair.  They are held periodically and
they always let us know about them.  You may wish to attend.

Dick Davis



*From:* Andrew Wellins <awellins at benderconsult.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:43 AM
*To:* ddavis at blindinc.org
*Subject:* Bender Virtual Career Fair for People with Disabilities March
2021



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From mistydbradley at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 20:40:17 2021
From: mistydbradley at gmail.com (mistydbradley at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 15:40:17 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job
In-Reply-To: <7421ad6afcea1c1f06a501b894645dac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7421ad6afcea1c1f06a501b894645dac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3CEB50FC-9ACD-43CA-9EA2-B9D35C92F845@gmail.com>

Hi Dick,
Thank you for this great job advice. I emailed you off list also.
Thank you,


Misty Bradley 
MistyDBradley at gmail.com
https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Dick Davis via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Misty,
> 
> I can offer you general advice, but for more specific advice, I would need
> to ask you some questions.  My email is dickblind at gmail.com if you want to
> contact me.
> 
> 1. Look through your college transcript.  Are any of the courses you took
> valuable in a real world sense?  Did any of the skills you learned, such
> as research, report writing, etc. match some of the responsibilities on
> the job description?
> 
> 2. You cannot assume you won't be able to do a job.  Always call or visit
> and ask.  Find out what the responsibilities are in some detail and be
> prepared to explain how you could do them.
> 
> 3. Generic experience requirements are not job killers.  Today, employers
> are having to struggle to find qualified people.  Experience may not
> matter as much if they are having trouble finding good people.
> 
> 4. What alternative techniques or technology do you have and are able to
> use?  That could be a selling point.
> 
> 5. The fact that you worked at something is good.  Do not downgrade your
> skills or experience.  Use it to wow the employer.  Remember that some
> employers will be amazed that you can tie your shoes.
> 
> That's a start.  Contact me for more detailed advice.
> 
> Dick Davis
> dickblind at gmail.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job-Discussions <job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Chris Nestrud via Job-Discussions
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 11:27 PM
> To: Job Discussions internet Mailing List <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Chris Nestrud <ccn at chrisnestrud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] Needing advice on searching for a new job
> 
> Maybe lower level administrative assistant type positions with
> local/county/state government.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 12:39:54PM -0500, Misty Dawn Bradley via
>> Job-Discussions wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am currently searching for a new job and I am looking for advice. As
> for my current job, some circumstances have come up to where I need to
> quit as soon as I can Due to factors in the environment that are causing
> health issues for me. I currently work in a production facility that gives
> jobs to the blind and visually impaired making things for the military. I
> would like to get out of that  line of work and get a job in a more main
> stream field. As far as my education, I have an associates degree in
> general studies. as far as my work experience, I served part time in
> AmeriCorps State and National for a nine month program as an ESL tutor and
> did a work study at my local community college in the field of
> accessibility for e-learning. I have had two positions at two different
> production plants mainly hiring the blind and visually impaired as a
> sewing machine operator.
>> I am taking this next week off to apply for jobs, but I am having
> difficulty knowing where even to start, as a lot of jobs I have looked at
> require vision. A lot of the retail jobs require you to check out people
> at registers or use proprietary systems that are not accessible. Some of
> the job descriptions even stated that you need a good visual acuity to do
> that particular job. The ones that don???t require vision tend to require
> more experience than what I have. Even most of the customer service jobs I
> have looked at require at least six months to a year of customer service
> experience even for entry level jobs. I thought about Office jobs, such as
> being a secretary or something like that, but I wonder how I would handle
> paperwork. I know some of it you can scan, but there are some forms that
> you would have to fill out by hand so I wonder how that would work as a
> blind or visually impaired person that has trouble filling out forms
> myself. I am interested in a work at home position if possible, but I
> would take an on site position as well.
>> Does anyone on this list have any ideas of any jobs that are accessible
> yet don???t require more than an associates degree and don???t require a
> lot of experience? if you have gotten a job under similar education and
> experience, what kinds of jobs have you had? Are there any tips or advice
> you would give to someone looking for a new job?
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Misty Bradley
>> MistyDBradley at gmail.com
>> https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Job-Discussions mailing list
>> Job-Discussions at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Job-Discussions:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/job-discussions_nfbnet.org/ccn%40chr
>> isnestrud.com
> 
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From jhipp25 at sc.rr.com  Tue Mar  2 20:41:20 2021
From: jhipp25 at sc.rr.com (Jennifer Bazer)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 15:41:20 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] NFB of SC Successful Transitions Seeks
 Individuals for Summertime Work
Message-ID: <005101d70fa4$674e5900$35eb0b00$@sc.rr.com>

 

 

Summertime contract positions available with Successful Transitions, a
non-profit program under the National Federation of the Blind of South
Carolina (NFBSC).  We provide free pre-employment transition services to
blind students ages 13 to 21.  

 

Successful Transitions will hold a Summer Teen program in collaboration with
the South Carolina Commission for the Blind. This event will begin on or
around June 21, 2021 and will conclude on or around July 31. Most positions
will be in-person in Columbia, SC. There will be a select few that will be
virtual from anywhere.

 

Looking for positive role models for blind children and youth.  Must have
excellent oral and written communications skills, patience, high energy, be
self-motivated, dedication to helping others, able to work in a group or
individually.  All individuals will be required to submit to a background
check.  

The services that we provide include the following:

Self-Advocacy

Work Readiness

Post-Secondary Exploration

Internships

Orientation and Mobility 

Assistive Technology

Braille

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HI all,

 

I'm tailoring my resume for a specific position. TO qualify for said
position I need specific certificates which update as new information is
released. My questions is: do I need to add that info (certificate updates
as new info is released) to my resume? 

 

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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 18:45:21 2021
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Yes, keep it current and on point.

 

Justin

 

 

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HI all,

 

I'm tailoring my resume for a specific position. TO qualify for said
position I need specific certificates which update as new information is
released. My questions is: do I need to add that info (certificate updates
as new info is released) to my resume? 

 

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From madisonmartin463 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 19:04:18 2021
From: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com (madisonmartin463 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:04:18 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience, should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would  6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   



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From: jwenzel at beyondvision.com (Jennifer Wenzel)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 19:35:21 +0000
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hello,
I would suggest you title a section volunteer/internship experiences and put your work experiences there. These can be important experiences, especially if you have not had a lot of other paid experiences. You do not need to include references on your resume. Most people do not. You can put something at the end about references furnished upon request. When you do provide a reference list, 3 or 4 are plenty. Try to use previous supervisors or coworkers. If using a friend, make it someone you may have worked for or done something responsible for such as housesitting, childcare, etc. That makes it easy for the friend to speak to your work ethic. Hope that helps.





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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating my resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my resume during this career development class I put them under work experience, should I leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would  6 referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far I have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my former restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school teachers who's also a friend. I look forward to any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks Madison


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From ajharmon26 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 19:39:28 2021
From: ajharmon26 at gmail.com (ajharmon26)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 14:39:28 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hello
On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
factors:

1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a typical
resume which includes experience most recent to least recent, while the
latter is a potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on your experience
and skills rather than specific time periods. (Please correct me if I'm
getting this wrong, Dick and/or anyone else).
2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of a
series of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over
time?
3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally just
ignore separating out the experience that way, and just list whatever is
relevant to the job. You might want to list a separate section for any
special honors or unique volunteer experience like serving at the
appointment of a state governor or made Dean's List, etc., etc.

As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for wants a
minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work related. I think
you're just fine in regards to references.

Hope this helps

Andrew Harmon 

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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my
resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience,
should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any
thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From ajharmon26 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 19:41:41 2021
From: ajharmon26 at gmail.com (ajharmon26)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 14:41:41 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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My apologies, I didn't read the bit well enough about the references. I
would say not to put them on the resume at all. Instead, you can either just
have the information handy, or you can create a reference sheet if you
really want to have something fancy to hand over to prospective employers. I
can email you a sample, or you can run a quick search online for "sample
reference sheet".

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my
resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience,
should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any
thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From madisonmartin463 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 19:48:22 2021
From: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com (madisonmartin463 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:48:22 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years ago. They
were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid work
experience. 

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Hello
On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
factors:

1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a typical resume
which includes experience most recent to least recent, while the latter is a
potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on your experience and skills rather
than specific time periods. (Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, Dick
and/or anyone else).
2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of a series
of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally just ignore
separating out the experience that way, and just list whatever is relevant to
the job. You might want to list a separate section for any special honors or
unique volunteer experience like serving at the appointment of a state governor
or made Dean's List, etc., etc.

As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for wants a
minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work related. I think you're
just fine in regards to references.

Hope this helps

Andrew Harmon 

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Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions

Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience, should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From jordanandseptember at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 20:43:36 2021
From: jordanandseptember at gmail.com (Jordan Gallacher)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:43:36 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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I was always taught to not put references on a resum? as well.  However, I
do keep a document with a few references for when I do need them.
Jordan

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My apologies, I didn't read the bit well enough about the references. I
would say not to put them on the resume at all. Instead, you can either just
have the information handy, or you can create a reference sheet if you
really want to have something fancy to hand over to prospective employers. I
can email you a sample, or you can run a quick search online for "sample
reference sheet".

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
my resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4
different work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2
just arranged through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I
created my resume during this career development class I put them under work
experience, should I leave them there or put them under volunteer experience
heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
I have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
former restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
teachers who's also a friend. I look forward to any
thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From madisonmartin463 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 20:59:28 2021
From: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com (madisonmartin463 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 14:59:28 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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How do I create a reference sheet? 

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My apologies, I didn't read the bit well enough about the references. I would
say not to put them on the resume at all. Instead, you can either just have the
information handy, or you can create a reference sheet if you really want to
have something fancy to hand over to prospective employers. I can email you a
sample, or you can run a quick search online for "sample reference sheet".

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions

Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience, should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Wed Mar  3 21:48:57 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (ddavis at blindinc.org)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 16:48:57 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hi Madison, 
This is the kind of question this list is for. The nice part about it is that you will get many intelligent responses. Mine is to include your volunteer experience as part of your work experience if you don?t have much paid work experience. Employers are more interested in what you have done and know how to do than they are about whether you were paid. Call that section of your resume ?Experience?. The education section should be called ?Education?. 

Voluntarism is very important with employers today, so as you get more paid work experience, you can develop a ?Volunteer Work? category. Always remember that the purpose of your resume is to advertise yourself to employers, and everyone knows that it is designed to help you look your best. 

Dick Davis 

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> On Mar 3, 2021, at 2:41 PM, ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello
> On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
> factors:
> 
> 1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a typical
> resume which includes experience most recent to least recent, while the
> latter is a potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on your experience
> and skills rather than specific time periods. (Please correct me if I'm
> getting this wrong, Dick and/or anyone else).
> 2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of a
> series of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over
> time?
> 3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally just
> ignore separating out the experience that way, and just list whatever is
> relevant to the job. You might want to list a separate section for any
> special honors or unique volunteer experience like serving at the
> appointment of a state governor or made Dean's List, etc., etc.
> 
> As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for wants a
> minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work related. I think
> you're just fine in regards to references.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew Harmon 
> 
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> Of Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
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> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
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> 
> Hi all,
> I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
> my
> resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
> work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
> through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my
> resume
> during this career development class I put them under work experience,
> should I
> leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
> 6
> referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
> I
> have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
> former
> restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
> teachers
> who's also a friend. I look forward to any
> thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
> anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
> Madison   
> 
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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Wed Mar  3 21:57:41 2021
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 16:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Okay, now I have to disagree with my friend Jennifer Wenzel. I recommend you put three to five references on your resume. Use name, relationship to you or job title snd employer, email, and phone number. Or you can attach a separate resume sheet. That is because some employers like to check references before they interview people. Including references gives you a leg up with them. But her advice isn?t necessarily wrong, just different. Welcome to diversity of opinion! 
Dick Davis 


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> On Mar 3, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Madison Martin via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years ago. They
> were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
> They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid work
> experience. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions
> Sent: March 3, 2021 1:39 PM
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> Cc: ajharmon26 <ajharmon26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hello
> On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
> factors:
> 
> 1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a typical resume
> which includes experience most recent to least recent, while the latter is a
> potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on your experience and skills rather
> than specific time periods. (Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, Dick
> and/or anyone else).
> 2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of a series
> of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
> 3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally just ignore
> separating out the experience that way, and just list whatever is relevant to
> the job. You might want to list a separate section for any special honors or
> unique volunteer experience like serving at the appointment of a state governor
> or made Dean's List, etc., etc.
> 
> As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for wants a
> minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work related. I think you're
> just fine in regards to references.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew Harmon 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: job-discussions at nfbnet.org
> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hi all,
> I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating my
> resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
> work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
> through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my resume
> during this career development class I put them under work experience, should I
> leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
> 6
> referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far I
> have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my former
> restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school teachers
> who's also a friend. I look forward to any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
> anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
> Madison   
> 
> 
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From ajharmon26 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 22:10:19 2021
From: ajharmon26 at gmail.com (ajharmon26)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 17:10:19 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hello
I had a similar arrangement with a non-profit company whom I did one-shot
"projects" for pay with. We worked out a title, and listed each period I did
the projects for on the same line then compiled all the duties under the
same heading. (I.e. "February 2014, March 2015, August 2016-January 2017")

The other way you could list your work is "Work History" and "Volunteer
History".

Either way, good luck with your resume!

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years ago.
They
were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid work
experience. 

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Hello
On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
factors:

1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a typical
resume
which includes experience most recent to least recent, while the latter is a
potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on your experience and skills
rather
than specific time periods. (Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong,
Dick
and/or anyone else).
2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of a
series
of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally just
ignore
separating out the experience that way, and just list whatever is relevant
to
the job. You might want to list a separate section for any special honors or
unique volunteer experience like serving at the appointment of a state
governor
or made Dean's List, etc., etc.

As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for wants a
minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work related. I think
you're
just fine in regards to references.

Hope this helps

Andrew Harmon 

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Of
Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:04 PM
To: job-discussions at nfbnet.org
Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions

Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my
resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience,
should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any
thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From jwenzel at beyondvision.com  Wed Mar  3 22:14:20 2021
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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 22:14:20 +0000
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Personally I prefer a separate sheet, whether submitted with the resume or upon request. We check once someone is closer to hire and it is nice to have a separate place to get reference info rather than having to find them in a resume, but that is only my opinion and our company's practice. Regardless, make sure that anyone you include knows that you are including him or her as a reference. It is extremely awkward for all parties involved if the person asked to be a reference is completely unaware that this might be something they are asked to do! Diversity of opinion is what makes this list a great place for advice. Dick's advice is always stellar!





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Okay, now I have to disagree with my friend Jennifer Wenzel. I recommend you put three to five references on your resume. Use name, relationship to you or job title snd employer, email, and phone number. Or you can attach a separate resume sheet. That is because some employers like to check references before they interview people. Including references gives you a leg up with them. But her advice isn?t necessarily wrong, just different. Welcome to diversity of opinion!
Dick Davis


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Madison Martin via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years 
> ago. They were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
> They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid 
> work experience.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job-Discussions <job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
> Of
> ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions
> Sent: March 3, 2021 1:39 PM
> To: 'Job Discussions internet Mailing List' 
> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ajharmon26 <ajharmon26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
>
> Hello
> On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
> factors:
>
> 1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a 
> typical resume which includes experience most recent to least recent, 
> while the latter is a potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on 
> your experience and skills rather than specific time periods. (Please 
> correct me if I'm getting this wrong, Dick and/or anyone else).
> 2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of 
> a series of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
> 3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally 
> just ignore separating out the experience that way, and just list 
> whatever is relevant to the job. You might want to list a separate 
> section for any special honors or unique volunteer experience like 
> serving at the appointment of a state governor or made Dean's List, etc., etc.
>
> As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for 
> wants a minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work 
> related. I think you're just fine in regards to references.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Andrew Harmon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: job-discussions at nfbnet.org
> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
>
> Hi all,
> I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on 
> updating my resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school 
> I did 4 different work placements, 2 as part of a career development 
> class and 2 just arranged through the school. These were not paid 
> placements, but when I created my resume during this career 
> development class I put them under work experience, should I leave 
> them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
> 6
> referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? 
> So far I have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high 
> school EA, my former restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of 
> my former high school teachers who's also a friend. I look forward to 
> any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
> anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks 
> Madison
>
>
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From madisonmartin463 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 22:15:18 2021
From: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com (madisonmartin463 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hi Dick,
Okay, what are your thoughts on the people that I picked as references? 

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Okay, now I have to disagree with my friend Jennifer Wenzel. I recommend you put three to five references on your resume. Use name, relationship to you or job title snd employer, email, and phone number. Or you can attach a separate resume sheet. That is because some employers like to check references before they interview people. Including references gives you a leg up with them. But her advice isn?t necessarily wrong, just different. Welcome to diversity of opinion! 
Dick Davis 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Madison Martin via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years 
> ago. They were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
> They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid 
> work experience.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions
> Sent: March 3, 2021 1:39 PM
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> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ajharmon26 <ajharmon26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hello
> On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
> factors:
> 
> 1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a 
> typical resume which includes experience most recent to least recent, 
> while the latter is a potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on 
> your experience and skills rather than specific time periods. (Please 
> correct me if I'm getting this wrong, Dick and/or anyone else).
> 2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of 
> a series of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
> 3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally 
> just ignore separating out the experience that way, and just list 
> whatever is relevant to the job. You might want to list a separate 
> section for any special honors or unique volunteer experience like 
> serving at the appointment of a state governor or made Dean's List, etc., etc.
> 
> As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for 
> wants a minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work 
> related. I think you're just fine in regards to references.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew Harmon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: job-discussions at nfbnet.org
> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hi all,
> I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on 
> updating my resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school 
> I did 4 different work placements, 2 as part of a career development 
> class and 2 just arranged through the school. These were not paid 
> placements, but when I created my resume during this career 
> development class I put them under work experience, should I leave 
> them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
> 6
> referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? 
> So far I have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high 
> school EA, my former restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of 
> my former high school teachers who's also a friend. I look forward to 
> any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
> anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
> Madison   
> 
> 
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From ajharmon26 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 22:15:33 2021
From: ajharmon26 at gmail.com (ajharmon26)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 17:15:33 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
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Hello
Here's a format I adopted for this, just replace the info I used with the
relevant information for your references:

Name: John "Jim" Doe
Company: Daily Bugle		Type of company: Non-profit Media Company
Title: Executive Director
Address: 293 West Shore Road		Phone: 555-555-5555 Email:
John at bugle.org
City: New York City	State: New York	Zip code: 01234
Relationship: former supervisor	Years known: 10

Name: Bruce Chipman

---

Good luck

Andrew Harmon

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How do I create a reference sheet? 

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My apologies, I didn't read the bit well enough about the references. I
would
say not to put them on the resume at all. Instead, you can either just have
the
information handy, or you can create a reference sheet if you really want to
have something fancy to hand over to prospective employers. I can email you
a
sample, or you can run a quick search online for "sample reference sheet".

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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Hi all,
I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on updating
my
resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school I did 4 different
work placements, 2 as part of a career development class and 2 just arranged
through the school. These were not paid placements, but when I created my
resume
during this career development class I put them under work experience,
should I
leave them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
6
referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? So far
I
have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high school EA, my
former
restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of my former high school
teachers
who's also a friend. I look forward to any
thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
Madison   


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From ajharmon26 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 22:22:14 2021
From: ajharmon26 at gmail.com (ajharmon26)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 17:22:14 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
In-Reply-To: <198a01d7107a$b2767080$17635180$@gmail.com>
References: <175101d71066$2bb85bd0$83291370$@gmail.com>
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Oh, I forgot to mention when you put together the reference sheet that you should probably list a heading at the top that says "References" or something equally good.

As to the number of references, regardless of whether you use a sheet or put them on the resume directly, you will want to have at least 2 "professional" references and , and you will want to have a total of 3-5 references total. Professional references are people like former supervisors at volunteer activities or jobs, co-workers who can vouch for your ability to do the job, anyone who you trained - if relevant or applicable - etc., etc. Basically anyone who knows your abilities and can vouch for you in a work-related setting.

Finally, I cannot echo enough Jennifer's advice about approaching potential references *BEFORE* you put htem down on anything for a job you want to apply to; you will avoid a lot of potential awkwardness at best if you do this.

Good luck with your job hunt!

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon

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Hi Dick,
Okay, what are your thoughts on the people that I picked as references? 

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Okay, now I have to disagree with my friend Jennifer Wenzel. I recommend you put three to five references on your resume. Use name, relationship to you or job title snd employer, email, and phone number. Or you can attach a separate resume sheet. That is because some employers like to check references before they interview people. Including references gives you a leg up with them. But her advice isn?t necessarily wrong, just different. Welcome to diversity of opinion! 
Dick Davis 


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> On Mar 3, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Madison Martin via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It's a chronological resume. The most recent one was almost 3 years 
> ago. They were at different places, but I did similar things at 3 out of the 4 places.
> They were spread out over 2 school years. I have absolutely no paid 
> work experience.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions
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> Cc: ajharmon26 <ajharmon26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hello
> On the question about the experience, it honestly depends on several
> factors:
> 
> 1. Is it a chronological or a functional resume? The former is a 
> typical resume which includes experience most recent to least recent, 
> while the latter is a potentially abbreviated resume that focuses on 
> your experience and skills rather than specific time periods. (Please 
> correct me if I'm getting this wrong, Dick and/or anyone else).
> 2. How long ago was the experience, and was the particular job part of 
> a series of"gigs" within the same workshop, or different separate jobs over time?
> 3. Do you have a lot of paid experience? If not, I would personally 
> just ignore separating out the experience that way, and just list 
> whatever is relevant to the job. You might want to list a separate 
> section for any special honors or unique volunteer experience like 
> serving at the appointment of a state governor or made Dean's List, etc., etc.
> 
> As to the references, almost every single job I've ever applied for 
> wants a minimum of 3 references, at least 2 of which were work 
> related. I think you're just fine in regards to references.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew Harmon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Madison Martin via Job-Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: job-discussions at nfbnet.org
> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Job-Discussions] resume questions
> 
> Hi all,
> I hope this is okay to post hear, sorry if it isn't. I'm working on 
> updating my resume and have a few questions. When I was in high school 
> I did 4 different work placements, 2 as part of a career development 
> class and 2 just arranged through the school. These were not paid 
> placements, but when I created my resume during this career 
> development class I put them under work experience, should I leave 
> them there or put them under volunteer experience heading? Also, would
> 6
> referances be enough? If not, then any ideas of who else I could ask? 
> So far I have my bosses from 3 of my work placements, my former high 
> school EA, my former restbite worker who's also a friend, and one of 
> my former high school teachers who's also a friend. I look forward to 
> any thoughts/suggestions/feedback/help
> anyone can provide me, it will be grately appreciated!!!!!! Thanks
> Madison   
> 
> 
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From anmolpbhatia at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 15:33:41 2021
From: anmolpbhatia at gmail.com (Anmol Bhatia)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:33:41 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Interesting article in today's NY Times.
Message-ID: <CAGkSVRyaZzhh6N7vGvm9W2qycxpd91CimM0w5SSZ+i9pBT=4wg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Just wanted to share this interesting article about how people with
disabilities have been affected by the downturn in employment during
the Covid-19.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/nyregion/workers-disabilities-unemployment-covid.html?smid=url-share


From singingmywayin at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 02:42:45 2021
From: singingmywayin at gmail.com (Danielle Ledet)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:42:45 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Amazon MTurk Experience
Message-ID: <CAMxXqERpK5zLCw=Vzh6Y7aE6zabR_Hvy+4fNSMxfGbuTyrFGuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friends,
Has anyone any experience working on Amazon's Mechanical Turk site?
Are the jobs too visual? I would like to know how you found it before
I sign up. Thanks!

-- 
How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
have been all of these.
George Washington Carver
Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com


From mistydbradley at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 19:54:57 2021
From: mistydbradley at gmail.com (mistydbradley at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 14:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Amazon MTurk Experience
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References: <CAMxXqERpK5zLCw=Vzh6Y7aE6zabR_Hvy+4fNSMxfGbuTyrFGuw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Danielle,
As of about two years ago, the site was pretty accessible. Most of the surveys were accessible. They seem to have more and more visual tasks though, like image captioning and data entry where there is an image of a receipt and you have to type in the data from it. I think it is worth a try though because you may find some tasks you can do. The pay is very low but if you?re looking for just a little extra income it is worth checking out. I find that the surveys, search engine related tasks, and task where you have to Google things and then type in what you found are the most accessible. If something ends up not being accessible, you can always reject the task. You can also search for certain types of tasks using the search box or you can filter them by various filters and types, so you can search for ones that are not image related. sometimes, there are transcription tasks, although I?m not sure how accessible they are. You also get the chance to preview each task before you except it, so I think they give you nine or 10 minutes to preview it so you can decide if you want to take it. I used to do this to determine if it was accessible or not so I wouldn?t have to keep rejecting tasks. 

Misty Bradley 
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https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Danielle Ledet via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello friends,
> Has anyone any experience working on Amazon's Mechanical Turk site?
> Are the jobs too visual? I would like to know how you found it before
> I sign up. Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
> tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
> have been all of these.
> George Washington Carver
> Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com
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From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net  Sat Mar 13 02:33:28 2021
From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 18:33:28 -0800
Subject: [Job-Discussions] {Spam?} Working for the Post office, UPS
Message-ID: <20210313.023328.302.13@[0.0.0.0]>

Are there any jobs short of menial janitorial work we as blind people can do at the post office or UPS? I don't think we could do stuff like mail sorting or handling. What about clerical work. Other possibilities?
The work search saga continues.


From singingmywayin at gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 03:12:04 2021
From: singingmywayin at gmail.com (Danielle Ledet)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 21:12:04 -0600
Subject: [Job-Discussions] {Spam?} Re:  Amazon MTurk Experience
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References: <CAMxXqERpK5zLCw=Vzh6Y7aE6zabR_Hvy+4fNSMxfGbuTyrFGuw@mail.gmail.com>
 <DC6E20B4-BF19-4145-8865-DD414B8D77DA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMxXqESu5YRzeZbwXqJkU+b_R5DG=JC=zHrrNFh6S1PZASH1sA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks so much. I might give it a try, although I am looking for real
work. But it could bring in a lil something extra. Thanks for your
review.

On 3/12/21, Misty Dawn Bradley via Job-Discussions
<job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Danielle,
> As of about two years ago, the site was pretty accessible. Most of the
> surveys were accessible. They seem to have more and more visual tasks
> though, like image captioning and data entry where there is an image of a
> receipt and you have to type in the data from it. I think it is worth a try
> though because you may find some tasks you can do. The pay is very low but
> if you?re looking for just a little extra income it is worth checking out. I
> find that the surveys, search engine related tasks, and task where you have
> to Google things and then type in what you found are the most accessible. If
> something ends up not being accessible, you can always reject the task. You
> can also search for certain types of tasks using the search box or you can
> filter them by various filters and types, so you can search for ones that
> are not image related. sometimes, there are transcription tasks, although
> I?m not sure how accessible they are. You also get the chance to preview
> each task before you except it, so I think they give you nine or 10 minutes
> to preview it so you can decide if you want to take it. I used to do this to
> determine if it was accessible or not so I wouldn?t have to keep rejecting
> tasks.
>
> Misty Bradley
> MistyDBradley at gmail.com
> https://www.JourneyingThroughHealing.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Danielle Ledet via Job-Discussions
>> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello friends,
>> Has anyone any experience working on Amazon's Mechanical Turk site?
>> Are the jobs too visual? I would like to know how you found it before
>> I sign up. Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
>> tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
>> have been all of these.
>> George Washington Carver
>> Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com
>>
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How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
have been all of these.
George Washington Carver
Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com


From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 18:20:36 2021
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:20:36 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] {Spam?} RE:  {Spam?} Working for the Post office,
 UPS
In-Reply-To: <20210313.023328.302.13@[0.0.0.0]>
References: <20210313.023328.302.13@[0.0.0.0]>
Message-ID: <017401d71835$90a69ad0$b1f3d070$@gmail.com>

You culd sort of handle mail with some of the apps on th eiPhone.

Not my cup of tea, but I think it could be done.

Besides, there is a job you can do there.

Why did you pick that particular agency.

Justin




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Are there any jobs short of menial janitorial work we as blind people can do
at the post office or UPS? I don't think we could do stuff like mail sorting
or handling. What about clerical work. Other possibilities?
The work search saga continues.

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From dotwriter1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 00:01:59 2021
From: dotwriter1 at gmail.com (Ericka)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 19:01:59 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Working for the
 Post office, UPS
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Lots of blind work for FedEx. Dick Davis knows more about it than I do.

Ericka Nelson

> On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:11 PM, Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?You culd sort of handle mail with some of the apps on th eiPhone.
> 
> Not my cup of tea, but I think it could be done.
> 
> Besides, there is a job you can do there.
> 
> Why did you pick that particular agency.
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [Job-Discussions] {Spam?} Working for the Post office, UPS
> 
> Are there any jobs short of menial janitorial work we as blind people can do
> at the post office or UPS? I don't think we could do stuff like mail sorting
> or handling. What about clerical work. Other possibilities?
> The work search saga continues.
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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Mon Mar 15 20:00:49 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (Dick Davis)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Simple Resume Format
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Dear List and Committee Members,

I keep getting requests for a simple resume format.  So I wrote a short
article including one.  Hope this helps.

Dick Davis, Chair
NFB Employment Committee
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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Mon Mar 15 20:33:16 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (Dick Davis)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:33:16 -0500
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Revised Simple Resume Format
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Dear List and Committee Members,

Right after sending this article to you, I realized that the ending may
have come across as critical of higher education and the federal
government.  My apologies!  That wasn?t my intention.  Please discard that
earlier article and use the attached instead.

Best wishes,

Dick Davis, Chair
NFB Employment Committee
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From bullis.michael at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 15:29:27 2021
From: bullis.michael at gmail.com (Michael Bullis)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 11:29:27 -0400
Subject: [Job-Discussions] [Employment-Committee] Revised Simple Resume
 Format
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Excellent format.  Poor muskrats!!
 
 
From: Employment-Committee <employment-committee-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dick Davis via Employment-Committee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:33 PM
To: Jennifer Wenzel <jwenzel at beyondvision.com>; job-listings at nfbnet.org; Job Discussions internet Mailing List <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>; Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List <rehab at nfbnet.org>; Private List for Employment Committee <employment-committee at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dick Davis <ddavis at blindinc.org>; Wunder, Gary <gwunder at nfb.org>
Subject: [Employment-Committee] Revised Simple Resume Format
 
Dear List and Committee Members,
Right after sending this article to you, I realized that the ending may have come across as critical of higher education and the federal government.  My apologies!  That wasn?t my intention.  Please discard that earlier article and use the attached instead.  
Best wishes, 
Dick Davis, Chair 
NFB Employment Committee
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From ddavis at blindinc.org  Sun Mar 21 22:05:30 2021
From: ddavis at blindinc.org (ddavis at blindinc.org)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 18:05:30 -0400
Subject: [Job-Discussions] Fwd: Back on Track Meeting March 22nd 2021 at
 7:00 PM
References: <E05DBC1B-DB80-4D3B-B01B-777D3C448AB4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0031B89D-033B-4168-B2F8-93D4E1320FF1@blindinc.org>

This should be of interest to anyone who is looking for a job. This lady does an excellent job working with blind people. 
Dick Davis

Sent from my iPhone

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> From: Bianca Moreiras <moreirasbianca at gmail.com>
> Date: March 21, 2021 at 8:45:35 AM EDT
> To: Rachel Kuntz <rkuntz at blindinc.org>
> Cc: Dick Davis <ddavis at blindinc.org>, dickblind at gmail.com
> Subject: Fwd: Back on Track Meeting March 22nd 2021 at 7:00 PM
> 
> ?Great program hope you'll spread the word. 
> 
> Bianca Moreiras
> Bianca Moreiras & Associates
> 305-986-0905
> www.biancamoreiras.com 
> 
> ?Simple solutions for complex issues. That will propel you to great leadership. Don?t overthink, overwork, or over create things. Use your energy to motivate, stimulate and elevate others.? ? Bianca Moreiras
> 
> Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Back on Track Team <raul.u.fernandez at gmail.com>
>> Date: March 20, 2021 at 9:44:26 AM EDT
>> To: Bianca <moreirasbianca at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Back on Track Meeting March 22nd 2021 at 7:00 PM
>> Reply-To: raul.u.fernandez at gmail.com
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