[Job-Discussions] Making that Career Choice

Thu Sep 29 23:06:05 UTC 2022

NFB brainwash as far as I am concerned.  If you want to believe that then fine, but the reality is that as someone who has been on SSI, and who is now on SSDI, there are definitely benefits to staying on it for as long as needed.  For example.  I staid on SSI until my dad retired, and then I got on SSDI under his retirement benefits.  I would not at all recommend someone taking a job with any of the so called agencies that are affiliated withNIB since none of those jobs are really that stable if one is on SSI unless it is a good paying job well higher than minimum wage not what most of the organizations I have seen offer.  Hence why there is only one of those I will apply to these days since they know me quite well and I know them.  SSDI is actually a ton better since one really does not have to worry about losing benefits as quickly, and if one is confident enough to correct the SSA when they make a mistake since they do not know their own Red Book, one can stay on SSDI and work full time and make a pretty good living before even having to worry about losing it.  In my line of work, I will never lose it until I get married.  And that is another thing the NFB forgets all about is that people have to make their own choices.  What works for one will not work for another, and therefore, preaching that it is wrong entirely, is disgusting at the very least.  

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I would respectfully disagree with you. I personally come into contact with many individuals on both SSI and SSDI who wish to keep these benefits or need to for various reasons. They sometimes work fewer hours to comply with earnings limitations, or choose not to work at all. This is of course their choice, but it speaks to a huge flaw in the benefits system. These benefits should be decreased more gradually, and they should not be tied to medical benefits so that people can be free to work and get promoted and get raises without fear of losing critical medications. 

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Statements like the following are simply not true.  when SSI hits, they are going to think they are millionaires, and there goes the incentive to work.  I know no one who is on SSI who wishes to remain on it, and if one wants to it is their choice and no one others.  I hate to say it but the NFB's views on things and screwing somethings up for us is exactly why I am now no longer a NFB member not to mention other issues that are discrimitory at one of the centers if you have multiple disabilities such as I do.0020 -----Original Message-----
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I could not agree more! The social security administration has us listed, along with people who have Sarabel palsy, as presumptively disabled, that is presumed unable to work! What a message to give our young blind people

Karen Rose MFT/LPCC www.career-therapy.net

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Dick Davis via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I think SSI, coming at age 18, can be a real curse for young blind people. For years I have told parents to try to get their blind kids into jobs early, so they get the satisfaction of earning a paycheck for a job well done. If not, when SSI hits, they are going to think they are millionaires, and there goes the incentive to work.
> Dick Davis
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Kris Colcock via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I so agree with you! When we can get our kids into summer work 
>> experiences, camp counselors, fast food service, mail rooms, etc. the 
>> experience is extremely valuable. The social aspects, problem solving 
>> experience, some real life experience of managerial expectations 
>> prepare you for what is really ouut there.
>>
>> I've read so many different articles and posts on how to understand 
>> that every job is a stepping stone. What you learn from that 
>> temporary position, that position you took because you had to make 
>> ends meet or that internship that sounded fantastic but turned out to 
>> be a nightmare is more valuable then reading about it in a book or 
>> class lecture. No becomes a CEO of a large company without experience.
>>
>> Staying open to opportunity and thinking outside of the box can lead 
>> to unexpected results.  I mean, who would have guessed that Steve 
>> Jobbs would have used the experience of calligraphy when creating the 
>> Macintosh?
>>
>>> On 9/28/22, Jennifer Wenzel via Job-Discussions 
>>> <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> This is a great discussion. I think it is important to think about 
>>> both "jobs:" and "careers". While I do not feel it is a good idea to 
>>> try to push people into expected careers, I do think it is very 
>>> Important for blind people to gain work experience. This may mean 
>>> working at something that is not your passion and may not be your 
>>> ultimate career, but will give you valuable work experience which can be shown on a resume.
>>> Sighted people gain work experience like this through early 
>>> entry-level jobs. For example, my sighted sons have worked in a fast 
>>> food restaurant and at a grocery store. Some blind people gain this 
>>> type of entry-level experience early, and that is great. This type 
>>> of experience cannot be

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