[Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.
Albert at Myblindspot.org
Fri Aug 3 15:06:22 UTC 2018
it is not legal, but if we reflect on the historical perspective of such things, we all have to prove ourselves, unfortunately, prior to seeing any reasonable advancements toward true equality.
From: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:02 AM
To: Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org>
Cc: Jobs for the Blind <jobs at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.
But disability is equivalent to race and orientation and religion and gender. It is simply another factor about an individual. Women are perceived to be less productive than I remembered. We are paid considerably less on average than our men. And this is illegal! Why should it be legal to pay those of us with disabilities less than others for our time? The question is – are we paid for the number of widgets we produce Christmas or are we being paid for our time? Karen
> On Aug 3, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org> wrote:
> And if these people are not productive and earning their wage should they even be hired? I worked in a program where many of the consumers had mild to severe mental health issues. Managing people is a daunting task without having to be a trained mental health clinician on top of managing a production line. But there are a significant number of able bodied individuals that are both able to work and manage their conditions/diagnosis.
> That being said, I do believe in equal pay for all. However, what do we do in those instances, where our community is being told to volunteer to prove our worth and value, when instances like these may, or may not be coloring employers opinions of ability based upon a collective perception on disability?
> Would it make things any more palatable if there were mentoring or internship programs, that started out at a basic wage, helping these individuals socialize and integrate into the workforce, rewarding them based upon merit that takes into account the management of their diagnosis/condition, helping them and the employer succeed?
> The subpar wages do not work, paying people more without a plan does not work, and many of us capable of holding a job, and climbing through the ranks are penalized because neither the employer or, in many instances, the worker are "disability ready" to position Ability alongside race, gender, orientation and religion in both our social and corporate cultures.
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> From: Jobs <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Karen Rose via Jobs
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 1:38 AM
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> Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.
> Dave Dash what you’re missing is the fact that these people have the same bills that we all have. They do not get a segregated grocery store with lower prices. If they work than they deserve to be paid at least the same minimum wage is every other worker. Otherwise it is called – slavery.
>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Dave via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> Read the article, and the author seems to be a bit bias on the side of
>> the Employees. And I can see this, but when it comes to disabilities,
>> the range of Ability is wider than what is found in the population
>> without disabilities.
>> The ranks of the disabled can range from the person who needs
>> constant help and supervision, to the person who out works even those
>> said to be Normal.
>> For about a year, I worked at a Sheltered Workshop. We had all kinds
>> of people with a wide range of ability.
>> I knew several people, who could not stay focused upon the task given
>> to them, and the Floor Supervisor had to remind them multiple times
>> about staying focused. One guy had next to Zero productivity because
>> he couldn't stay focused.
>> Are you saying these people who do not give a Full Day's productivity
>> should be paid at least minimum wage?
>> If you do, would you be surprised if the Employer never hired another
>> low productivity employee?
>> Grumpy Dave
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