[Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.

Robert Sollars robertsollars2 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 3 15:59:38 UTC 2018

Karen...speaking from a security point of view, that person who is spending more time on shopping and items not related to their work is technically stealing from the company.
If the company says it is okay...fine. But if they do...they get what they get...lower productivity and pay the same salary.
I always told people I managed, do your job and get it done then when you are done, correctly, then your time is your own to do whatever...just don't expose the company to the innumerable hazards that are on-line.
But speaking closer to the point people who don't produce are jettisoned before the company can 'lose' any more money on them. Few companies are willing, or can, afford to coach and coax an employee to come up to full productivity. Normally, they are expected to hit the ground running...and if they can only jog at first...bye bye. Some companies give employees the time to develop and get up to full operational capacity but most don't.
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From: Jobs <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Karen Rose via Jobs
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To: Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org>
Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>; Jobs for the Blind <jobs at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.

OK so the person who is spending 40% of her time doing online shopping and playing with friends on Facebook should not get her full salary? We know that about 60% of time spent at work is actually spent working.

> On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org> wrote:
> In the very least they should be paid to produce, and am thinking that is where the commercial side of things take precedent. Poor productivity impacts the bottom line.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net> 
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:05 AM
> To: Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org>
> Cc: Jobs for the Blind <jobs at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Jobs] It's time for people with disabilities to get paid their fair share.
> Of course, most fields involve beginning with some form of internship. But internships are clearly defined as to time. Many people in these sheltered workshops have been there for years. Even as a psychotherapist, I am not required to work without pay isn’t into room/sleeve for any more than 3000 hours. Also, are these people in these workshops given special grocery stores? Space are they given places to live that cost less to rent? How are they expected to live well being paid less? I don’t get it
>> On Aug 3, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Albert Rizzi <Albert at Myblindspot.org> wrote:
>> Karen,
>> And if these people are not productive and earning their wage should they even be hired? I worked in a program where many of the consumers had mild to severe mental health issues. Managing people is a daunting task without having to be a trained mental health clinician on top of managing a production line. But there are a significant number of able bodied individuals that are both able to work and manage their conditions/diagnosis.
>> That being said, I do believe in equal pay for all. However, what do we do in those instances, where our community is being told to volunteer to prove our worth and value, when instances like these may, or may not be coloring employers opinions of ability based upon a collective perception on disability?
>> Would it make things any more palatable if there were mentoring or internship programs, that started out at a basic wage, helping these individuals socialize and integrate into the workforce, rewarding them based upon merit that takes into account the management of their diagnosis/condition, helping them and the employer succeed?
>> The subpar wages do not work, paying people more without a plan does not work, and many of us capable of holding a job,

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