[Jobs] employer frustration

ajharmon26 ajharmon26 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 8 01:55:07 UTC 2018


To Mr. Reed: *applauds violently* Thank you for saying what you did; it
encapsulates the useful outcomes from this series of events and
"discussions" perfectly.

To others on here who continue to drag this topic forward: the only people
who should be considered to be "ambassadors" for the "blindness community"
are the officers of this organization (both state and national), as that is
part and parcel of becoming such a position in my humble opinion. Whether or
not we get judged as such when we are not in such positions is a point for
discussion with that individual, as each and every individual is different
from one another. Yes we're all members of the NFB. Yes, Carlie or whoever
did the interview was participating in the event sanctioned by the NFB.
However, "THAT GUY" is *NOT* a duly appointed representative of the NFB, nor
the Jobs Committee. To continue to repeat and repeat such as a venue for
venting personal outrage on what was admittedly a poor choice in social
interactions does neither yourselves nor our list any service. Please kindly
move onwards.

If this annoys or offends, I apologize in advance. Have a good night, and
good luck in all your endeavors, whatever industry it leads you to.

Sincerely

Andrew Harmon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
via Jobs
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:10 PM
To: 'Jobs for the Blind'
Cc: Jordan Gallacher
Subject: Re: [Jobs] employer frustration

As I stated already, this person would have had to sign documents stating he
would work for Keystone for a minimum of 2 years just to get the process
rolling.  This would be a person that I would give a black mark too, and
Carli did the absolute right thing here as far as I am concerned.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jobs <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jim Reed via Jobs
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:04 PM
To: jobs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jim Reed <jim275.2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Jobs] employer frustration

Wow, this topic has some serious staying power with digest after digest of
nothing but...

Let me throw my 2 cents in:
1. The employee is wrong for ditching the interview with no contact; I had
an appointment with a contractor last week and I got stood up with a no
call/no show, so I know how annoying it cam be; but guess what? I won't use
that contractor again, and I suspect neither will this employer use the
no-show employee. Natural consequences.

2. the employer is wrong for emailing the NFB as if the organization has
some sort of control/jurisdiction/responsibility for this individual. What
is the purpose of the letter other than to vent? Does this person expect
Dick to do something about this? Is the employer not going to participate in
the job fair if it happens again? I Don't think so.  So, if this letter
serves no purpose why write it?  It is well-known that turnover is expensive
and a real chore to deal with (an employer can expect to spend anywhere from
an equivalent of 3-6 months of wages on all aspects of the hiring/training
process per turnover). Recruiting (and this type of no-show situation) is
part of the cost of doing business;  and lets not forget this person's job
title is human resource assistant...this is what she gets paid for and why
her department exist; While not pleasant, this is part of the job and I
don't see other HR people writing this type of letter to job fair host when
canadates no-show the interview. Is this person really complaining about
having to do their job and get paid for it?    Further, I don't see the same
letters being written to college job fairs when their sighted students do
the same thing. Additionally, I know of a blind person who took a job offer,
waited a mont to start work, then took a different job within days of being
scheduled to start the first job. That person is still working in their
chosen field, so while not a smart idea, it is obviously not rare or fatal.


3. Dick is wrong for spreading this person's business all over the list and
demanding a public appoligy under the name of the abstract future blind job
seeker who is theoretically harmed by this. And the NFB doesn't owe this
company an appoligy for this person's behavior any more than I do. Also,
this doesn't impact the blind from future work at this company--based on the
email address of @keystone blind.org, this employer is either some sort of
workshop or at least an employer gaining federal benefits from hiring the
blind/disabled...there will be more blind to follow, and they will continue
to be hired.  Further, if you are looking to hire from a specific group
(men, women, black, disabled, actors, auto mechanics, etc) inevitably there
will be some canadates who are a less than stellar example of that group,
and the one individual there doesn't represent the whole any more than this
one blind candidate does.  And we have a word for persons who believe 1
represents the whole... 

Also, let's not forget this blind candidate at one point in time had
multiple viable job offers in front of him; how many of you can say the
same? You might want to think of that before you continue to judge. Also, if
first contact between employer/employee was NFB convention 2017, and we just
past the 2018 convention and this canadate just barely got past the
pre-vetting stage, how much of this is on the employer or the process? Is
someone really supposed to wait a year between application and start date?
Perhaps this person kept waiting and waiting and eventually had to take
something else? He still should have called and canceled, but even if he
did, all the time and effort would have still been wasted by the employer
and they may still be writing this letter.

And one last thing... something that always bothers me about the blind
perspective is that belief I somehow represent you, and you me. I don't
represent you; pay me and I will but otherwise I live the life I want to
live, and you should do the same. And if you think your life somehow has a
higher purpose because you represent me, it doesn't, so stop; you don't
represent me unless I have asked you to; so worry about you and make the
choices that serve you best because at the end of the day you represent you,
and no one else; and you have to live in the bed you made, not the bed I
made for you.

Jim


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