[Jobs] Washington seminar/resolution idea

Elizabeth Campbell batescampbell at gmail.com
Fri Aug 10 02:56:20 UTC 2018

Hello Jim, I think that your proposal is interesting. However, I don't
think the government should be in  the business of paying for Aira
subscriptions. I am employed and use Aira although I don't have the
unlimited plan. Aira is a fantastic service, and the company is finding
ways to provide services where users are not paying for minutes such as
site access at a growing list of airports and with tasks related to finding
a job. I think we should focus  on doing what we can to invest in the Aira
service as the company is working to keep costs reasonable while expanding
services such as having agents available 24 hours.. By investing, I mean
that we pay for the service as Aira has a pricing plan in place. I think
that shows people and the government if you will that we see Aira as a
valuable tool. I will also say that Aira does not take the place of having
good blindness skills. If someone uses Aira outside of a home or building,
the agent will ask if the person is using a cane or a guide dog.
I hope this helps.
Best regards

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Jim Reed via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
> For those that don’t know, AIRA is a human-powered, remote- assistant
>  software program from google to help the blind with almost anything they
> might need or want using smartphone cameraphone technology, and other
> powerful google tools such as GPS, google transit, the internet, and so on.
> It cost $300 per month for unlimited use. I got to experience AIRA a few
> weeks ago navigating a crowded festival; it was seamless, perfect, and
> easy,  and my response to my friend was “with this service, it is like we
> are not even blind.” Why not make it available free to every blind person
> in America? This is what I am proposing in this email. If you really want
> to impact the lives of the every-day/ordinary blind person, I can think of
> no better way to do it that give everyone free AIRA.  Unfortunatly, it is
> just too expensive for the average blind person to afford—I work 40 hours a
> week in a professional position, and I can’t/won’t get it due to cost. So
> what is the unemployed blind person on $1,00 per monthof SSA benefits
> supposed to do? Obviously they cant afford it either.
> Here is my rough math; it would take someone with more reliable statistics
> and modeling software to see if this would be worth it or pay for itself.
> If I were on disability benefits instead of working, my check would be
> about $2,000/mont plus health insurance, plus food stamps, plus possible
> public housing assistance, and so on. Just focusing on the SSA cash
> benefit, 2000 per month times 12 months equals 24000 per year in cash
> benefits the federal government just paid. A full year of unlimited AIRA
> cost $3600 at $300/month. If AIRA were to get someone like me a job they
> would not have otherwise had, the government just saved $21,000 per year.
> At 3600 per year for AIRA, the money saved from this 1 person getting a job
> would be able to pay for an additional 5.8 people to get AIRA for a year.
> If 1 of those 5.8 people gets a job, and get off benefits, now the cash
> benefits not paid to person #1 and #2  can pay for 12 people to get AIRA.
> If 2 of those 12 get a job, now you have 4 people off benefits saving the
> government about  96000 per year then you minus full-year AIRA cost for
> these 4 people (3600 x 4=14,400)  for a total cost savings of 81600. This
> is now enough to buy  22.6 AIRA subscriptions, which might result in 4
> jobs, And this snowball will just get bigger and bigger (and be able to pay
> for more AIRA subscriptions) the longer it rolls downhill.  Theoretically,
> this would be an exponentially increasing feedback loop with constantly
> increasing numbers of subscriptions, followed by more employed blind
> persons,  and increasingly large SSA and public assistance savings, which
> lead to more subscriptions and more jobs, until every blind person in
> America has AIRA and all blind persons desiring to work are employed. And
> if we all think about it realistically, government subsidy of this type of
> service is all-but-inevitable and guaranteed 30-50 years in the future—just
> think of the money being currently spend on all blindness services
> combined; it will be impossible for the government not to provide this
> service in the future, especially when a nation’s worth of blind people are
> demanding access to it. I’m just proposing we jump the gun by about 20
> years and get right to it.
> This very simple model doesn’t account for lots of other variables such as
> the number of students who are more able to finish college or trade school,
> thus are more qualified to get and keep a job;   less emergency room visits
> from the blind due to things like taking the wrong medication; less nursing
> home care from the elder blind who are now better able to manage their own
> personal care;  less use of food stamps and public housing because these
> people are self-sufficent.  Less students in private and public blind
>  training centers (at $40,000 each for 9 months), less mental health
> issues, less depression, less suicides, and less  drug and alcohol use—all
> problems and cost avoided due to a higher quality of life, a greater
> involvement in society,  a greater sense of self-worth, and a greater
> ability to do something positive with someone’s life.
> This model also doesn’t account for the fact that the cost of AIRA will
> come down with automation, improved efficiency, more people using the
> service, and a fat, long-term government contract.
> I absolutely think the NFB should use some Washington Seminar resources to
> advocate that Congress give every blind person free AIRA for life.   $1
> million from congress would pay for 277 people to have AIRA for 1 year—and
> that is just a straight up appropriation not accounting for any of the cost
> savings described above that would multiply this number. Want to guess how
> much it would cost to send each of these 277 people to training for
> 9-months at an NFB training center?  Over $11 million. Like I said, the
> math, statistics, modeling, and etc are way over my head, but I think this
> would be worth pursuing.
> Thanks,
> Jim
> P.S. before the folks on the NFB jobs list start complaining about being
> off topic, think about how many more people would be working, and how many
> possible jobs/profession types  that would be made available to us if we
> had 24/7, reliable sighted assistance?   I’m trying to think of the most
> extreme blind-unfriendly occupations such as secretary, gas station clerk,
>  cook, executive chef, courier/delivery, event planner, inspector, and so
> on…without AIRA most of these jobs would be impossible as an independent
> blind person with no support; most of these positions would be very do-able
> with AIRA.  And…one problem a lot of blind people have is that the
> low/no-skill entry-level positions (such as bartender, janitor, cook)  that
> would be available to sighted students and those without degrees are not
> available or do able by the blind, leaving us perpetually unemployed and
> unable to gain experience, while the vast majority of positions blind
> people can do involve using their intellect which all requires education
> and degrees which means that most blind people are flat-out excluded from
> the entry-level, no-skill type positions, and face a huge hurdel called
> “college” before they are considered “qualified” for the entry-level type
> of jobs most blind people are suited for. It is almost like if you are
> blind you need a college degree to qualify for your first job, while all a
> sighted person needs is a strong back and a work ethic; AIRA would change
> this.
> Just something to think about…
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