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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I appreciate everyone’s input on this matter. I agree with Stephanie that everyone has opinions and let’s be respectful to each other. Best Wishes for those attending the rally today. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If we could, let’s please stop this thread now. We seem to be going in circles and it may cause some individuals to miss very important Convention updates. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I hope everyone has a wonderful day and I can’t wait to see all of you on Friday! We are going to have a terrific convention!! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Warmly, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Shara Winton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>President, National federation of the Blind of Massachusetts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="http://www.nfbma.org/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.nfbma.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="mailto:sharawinton@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>sharawinton@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>617-304-0347<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Paoli via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2025 9:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Stephanie Paoli <stephanie.p.valdes@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good morning everyone,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>First of all, I want to wish the best of success to those of you who might be attending the rally. I would have gone myself, but unfortunately, I have to work specially because I will be taking two days off in order to attend convention. With that being said, I would’ve attended to support other organizations and other disabilities because I like Justin believe that most blind people don’t have the need for a PCa and I feel like that can send the wrong message. that doesn’t mean that we cannot support other organizations like they have been supporting us in other matters such as the rights of blind parents/parents with disabilities. I usually don’t get involved in this kind of discussions, because I solely believe that everybody has their own opinion and that you have the right to your opinion. Nobody is wrong, however, I see that the discussion is literally going in circles, and everybody is basically saying the same thing and the same page, but with slightly different opinions. I say this in the kindness way and not to offend anybody, but I think that we need to respect everybody’s opinion and believes. I understand that there’s many people with Blindness or other disabilities, that use a PCA and in my opinion, they should have the right to do so because they want to not because they needed it or the disability requires it. Although obviously that is acceptable as well. I also think that I would never like anybody to assume that I need a PCA or that I cannot do things independently just for the solely reason that I am blind. We have to be honest with ourselves and know that this is exactly what people think when they see us. I experience this attitude from people every single day when I go to work, where they think I cannot even buckle my seatbelt on an Uber because I’m lying. just because people don’t wanna see it happen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. That is why I agree in certain way with what Justin says about being careful of what we project as blind people and how we do it. I think those opportunities to educate people rather than getting frustrated, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t happen.However, like II take those opportunities to educate people about blindness, rather than getting frustrated, that is the way that I contribute to changing the misperception of blindness. Although it does get tiring from time to time period Like I said before, that is only my opinion, and it shouldn’t affect anybody’s opinion in the matter or actions that they wish to take.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope you all have a wonderful Wednesday and I’m looking forward to talking to many of you at state convention over the weekend.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=p1><span class=s1>Stephanie Barrera Valdes</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span class=s1>Coordinator, <a href="https://nfbma.org/bell-academy">NFB BELL Academy of Massachusetts</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span class=s1>President, <a href="https://nfbma.org/chapters-divisions/massachusetts-parents-blind-children">Massachusetts Parents of Blind Children</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span class=s1>A proud division of the National Federation Of The Blind Of Massachusetts</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span class=s1>781-839-0628</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span class=s1><a href="mailto:stephanie.p.valdes@gmail.com">stephanie.p.valdes@gmail.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Mar 12, 2025, at 8:34<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Mary via Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Greetings!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I thought I’d said my piece on Monday night, but I now wish to express two short opinions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>First, I think Justin’s points below are solid and not mere propaganda. Second,, and not in conflict with this, I think Shara’s message yesterday morning is my favorite one in this thread. Both are at the heart of this matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Al</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Justin Salisbury via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 11:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of Massachusetts E-mail List <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Justin Salisbury <<a href="mailto:PRESIDENT@alumni.ecu.edu">PRESIDENT@alumni.ecu.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Sandy,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I think we are on the same page about everything…except the fact that we are on the same page.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If a blind person has other disabilities, they may need a PCA because of those other disabilities, but it is not because of blindness.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If a blind person has no other disabilities, then they do not need a PCA just because they’re blind. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Being new to blindness and not having the skills and confidence that you need to get things done is a tough situation to be in. I was in that situation, so I went off to training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind. I learned how to live independently there so that I did not need a PCA. If I develop additional disabilities over the course of my life, I may decide that I want a PCA, but that will not be because of blindness. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Blindness, by itself, does not make someone need a PCA. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Take care and enjoy the state convention,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Justin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>English Pronouns: He/Him/His</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Email: <a href="mailto:President@Alumni.ECU.edu"><span style='color:#0563C1'>President@Alumni.ECU.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ResearchGate: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw3uZJqqJkT2wSVxJDa9dD7W"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw0XtyTG9WXXQ8TWe6UeU4Nz"><span lang=EN style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ORCID: <a href="https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>“Until the lion learns how to write, every story will glorify the hunter.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chinua Achebe</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sandra Burgess via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Sandra Burgess <<a href="mailto:sandraburgess@msn.com">sandraburgess@msn.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Justin,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What I am about to say is based on two examples citing experiences of two people with disabilities. One is blind with emotional issues who was close to eviction more than once because were apartment was not hygenic and she refused to find help. At this point, now totally blind, the individual has been involved with PCA'S from different agencies; each one has slightly differing views on what a PCA can or cannot do. However, often she is told her aide needs to give personal care; if she does not need teaMedicaid will not pay for services. This person is not asking for personal help, but does want someone to clean the apartment and accompany her on errands and medical visits and also to help perhaps with reading. In Western Mass. we no longer have MABVI for volunteers. This person has no involvement witha CIL. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My other example is a person who was seeking aPCA from the local CIL and did not qualify at all because she<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>did not need any assistance completing tasks of daily living. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In my opinion, standing up forthe rights of those with other disabilities is essential to create a bridge of solidarity between us. As for your historical context, I question its reliability for, really, it doesn't matter because we need to be concerned withthe present. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sandy <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:35<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM, Justin Salisbury via Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi again,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Before the conversation goes down more accusatory rabbit holes, I want to encourage folks to read the message that I sent before reacting. I offered historical context without any particular push toward a stance that the NFB would or should take. As a reflective participant in our movement, I think it is good to know the context of advocacy issues as part of engaging in them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As a cane travel instructor, I have had students come to me who were currently under the care of a PCA at home, who had been given to them to take care of them specifically for their blindness. Then, it has been my job to help them get to a place of believing in themselves again. Raising people’s expectations while they are being waited on at home is difficult. Blind people are still sometimes given a PCA because of their blindness. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Just to remind folks, the first paragraph of my last message said:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I want to offer a few more thoughts just to offer background on why I asked. The summary, in one sentence, is that the collective blind relationship with PCA’s is very complicated, and I do not think that I have a clear stance on blind people participating in such an effort. Because of that, nobody should think I am shaming them for whatever they choose.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The last paragraph read:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Most of all, I hope that no blind teenagers will get told what I got told in that summer program about 20 years ago. Blindness, by itself, does not make a person need a PCA.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Go Sox,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Justin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>English Pronouns: He/Him/His</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Email: <a href="mailto:President@Alumni.ECU.edu"><span style='color:#0563C1'>President@Alumni.ECU.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ResearchGate: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw3uZJqqJkT2wSVxJDa9dD7W"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw0XtyTG9WXXQ8TWe6UeU4Nz"><span lang=EN style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ORCID: <a href="https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>“Until the lion learns how to write, every story will glorify the hunter.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chinua Achebe</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>wmodnl wmodnl via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 2:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> wmodnl wmodnl <<a href="mailto:wmodnl@hotmail.com">wmodnl@hotmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m going to throw my thoughts here for what it’s worth.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On one hand, yes, I understand the school of thought as blind people we need to be independent and market ourselves, a certain way to society and for what it’s worth that has its positive context. But like any other group, no two blind people are the same no two blind people require the same accommodations. There are the blind people out there who can be fully independent and there are those who can be independent enough to know that they need something such as extra help from family or a PCA whereas maybe their level of independence is managing the help they have whether it be family or PCA.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I personally could never fully be radical to one extreme or the other because of my own family has someone who is blind with multiple disabilities who needs a much different level of services than I would with my blindness. Personally, I could never in good conscience state with authority that every blind person has to follow one master rubric on this. And within reason for anyone who is blind and fully independent similar with the verbiage we would give to someone who is non-disabled about at any point they could become disabled, in the world in which we live at any point something external could change our level of independence experiencing something life altering where they would need supports they previously didn’t need. I am often at a loss on the best way to promote empowerment for people to be empowered to be independent, but not feeling like they have to be forced to fit in a one-size-fits-all model.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for reading, Will<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Mar 11, 2025, at 15:10, Jeanette Kutash via Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Justin, This is a bit unusual and hard for me to believe. At least in this state I have never seen what you describe. PCA’s according to BCIL don’t fall in to the category you recognize. If that were true, other disability groups would not be partnering with ACB and NFB to find a position of strength. And in my 73 years I have never been asked that question. The assumption that we cannot do things independently comes more from the families of blind people who have prohibited them from doing so. If you learned this from some program, which you do not name, and I seriously question, then I would first question the credibility of the program. You tend to often discourage us from partnering with other agencies for a position of strength. Perhaps that is what you should consider examining. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Given your expressed thoughts here I am concerned about your perspective more than I am those who feel we should support BCIL.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jeanette </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Justin Salisbury via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 2:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of Massachusetts E-mail List <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Justin Salisbury <<a href="mailto:PRESIDENT@alumni.ecu.edu">PRESIDENT@alumni.ecu.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Shara,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thank you for letting us know this. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I want to offer a few more thoughts just to offer background on why I asked. The summary, in one sentence, is that the collective blind relationship with PCA’s is very complicated, and I do not think that I have a clear stance on blind people participating in such an effort. Because of that, nobody should think I am shaming them for whatever they choose. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If people do attend, I want you to be aware that there is a problematic tradition of giving blind people PCA’s instead of giving us adjustment-to-blindness training and other rehabilitation services. Instead of learning how to walk with a cane, we could just use a PCA to lead us everywhere with sighted guide. Instead of learning how to cook and clean, we could just use a PCA to do all of that for us. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>When I was a teenager and new to blindness, I went to a program that would help me to learn how to live as a blind person. I am sure that at least one other person on this list will know exactly which program I am talking about. There was a man in a leadership role there who seemed pretty popular. There was a joke about him, that he had two wives. He had his actual wife, who was also blind, and then he had a woman who lived with them and took care of them because they were blind. If I remember correctly, the story was that they got their health insurance to pay for her to be a PCA because of their blindness. They knew her because she had been the husband’s reader during college. The staff in that summer program taught us that this was a great benefit that we as blind people could get from the government. Not a single staff member shared a dissenting opinion. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Now, with all the polyamory in the world today, I am not taking a stance against the idea of having two partners. If that’s something that you want to do, go ahead, really. This isn’t about that. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What I am bringing up is that my teenage self was taught that the way to live as a blind person was to get a PCA to live with you to take care of you, as if it was too farfetched to believe that a blind person, or a blind couple, could reach the American dream of owning a home, raising children, and doing it all on their own without a sighted person to take care of them. Those kinds of messages were very harmful to me as a kid, and I didn’t really understand the extent of it until I started getting involved in the fight to make it illegal for the state to take people’s children away from them because they were blind. There is a longstanding idea in the broader society that blind people cannot take care of ourselves and need a sighted person to take care of us. This is related to how people think we cannot raise kids on our own.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I totally agree with the ideology about having solidarity with other groups. I am not a veteran, but I would happily march in the veterans’ march that his happening at state capitols all over the country on Friday. I might actually go to the one here in Minnesota where I am in graduate school. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If you go to the event, and if you get asked by anyone why you’re there, please do us all a favor and let folks know that it isn’t that blind people need PCA’s but that we’re there to support other people with disabilities. That is a personal ask and not an ask from the NFB.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Blind people are not often finding employment as personal care attendants, but we should have that opportunity if we want it. In that sense, helping to make sure that PCA opportunities exist is part of that solution; also, this could be an opportunity to get in the ears of the people who lead PCA certifying bodies and the leaders of healthcare organizations that employ the personal care attendants, and we might be able to encourage them to ensure that we remove accessibility and attitudinal barriers to blind people becoming employed as a PCA. I am for that any day of the week. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Whenever we do something, we never know who is watching and who is learning from what we do. There could be newly blind people or people who will soon become blind who notice that we are participating in this event. There could also be sighted people who are friends or family members to people who are, or will soon become, blind. They may end up taking away so many different kinds of interpretations, and much of that will depend on how they currently think about blindness. As a minoritized group in this society, this is going to happen whether we like it or not. They could tell themselves that the blind people in the crowd want a PCA to come take care of us, that the blind people in the crowd work as a PCA and take care of other people, that the blind people in the crowd got lost while walking outside and ended up in a crowd of people not knowing why they’re there, that blind people are standing in solidarity with other disability groups, or a million other stories. I hope that we get to tell our own story. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Most of all, I hope that no blind teenagers will get told what I got told in that summer program about 20 years ago. Blindness, by itself, does not make a person need a PCA. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Go Sox,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Justin Salisbury</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From Athol</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>English Pronouns: He/Him/His</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Email: <a href="mailto:President@Alumni.ECU.edu"><span style='color:#0563C1'>President@Alumni.ECU.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ResearchGate: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw3uZJqqJkT2wSVxJDa9dD7W"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury&source=gmail-imap&ust=1727538746000000&usg=AOvVaw0XtyTG9WXXQ8TWe6UeU4Nz"><span lang=EN style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>ORCID: <a href="https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>“Until the lion learns how to write, every story will glorify the hunter.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chinua Achebe</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shara Winton via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'NFB of Massachusetts E-mail List' <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:sharawinton@gmail.com">sharawinton@gmail.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Massachusetts-NFB] FW: Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Folks, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This message was sent from a concerned citizen. We the NFB, have not taken a stance on this particular rally. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>However, if any of you would like to attend this rally., I would encourage you to do so. I think standing up for the rights of any group you feel are being treated unfairly is a good way to stand up for what is right. If they throw anyone with disabilities “under the bus” so to say, we could be next. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If I had time, I would be there. Not as a representative of the NFB, necessarily, but for the protection of the rights of people with disabilities. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Warmly, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Shara Winton</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>President, National federation of the Blind of Massachusetts</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="http://www.nfbma.org/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.nfbma.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><a href="mailto:sharawinton@gmail.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>sharawinton@gmail.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>617-304-0347</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Massachusetts-NFB <<a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nora Nagle via Massachusetts-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 10, 2025 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org">massachusetts-nfb@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Nora Nagle <<a href="mailto:nnagle@aol.com">nnagle@aol.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Massachusetts-NFB] Upcoming PCA rally on March 12</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>There will be a rally at the State House on Wednesday, March 12 in opposition to proposed limitations on the Personal Care Attendant (PCA) program. If you can, please come to support the disability community! Details below:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:45.0pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'>Rally for PCA Services!</span></i></strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'><br> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:45.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'>Last year</span></strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'> the governor’s budget proposal would have cut 6,000 people from the PCA program. The community battled back and the cuts were taken off the table by the legislature. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:45.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:45.0pt'><strong><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'>This year’s budget</span></u></strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'> spares the program— a reason to cheer—but it includes language that would result in people <strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>not </span></strong>getting services or PCAs not being able to get needed pay raises because of an artificial and indefinite cap that would be placed on spending on the PCA program starting in16 months (<u>July 1, 2026</u>). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:45.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'><br><strong><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Rally for PCA Services</span></i></strong><br><strong><i><u><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>March 12, 1:00 pm</span></u></i></strong><br><strong><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>State House, Boston, Bowdoin Street Entrance</span></i></strong><br> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:45.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'>We will rally outside and then visit the governor’s office to state our concerns about PCA services being restricted in 16 months.For information contact BCIL at </span><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:blue'>617-338-6665</span></u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020'> or email <a href="mailto:contactBCIL@bostoncil.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:#007C89'>contactBCIL@bostoncil.org</span></a>. <br>This rally is supported by BCIL and 1199SEIU and all members of the disability and PCA communities are welcome!<br>ASL interpreters have been confirmed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:45.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nora Nagle<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Massachusetts-NFB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org">Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Massachusetts-NFB:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Massachusetts-NFB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org">Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Massachusetts-NFB:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/sandraburgess%40msn.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/sandraburgess%40msn.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Massachusetts-NFB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org">Massachusetts-NFB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Massachusetts-NFB:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/stephanie.p.valdes%40gmail.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/massachusetts-nfb_nfbnet.org/stephanie.p.valdes%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>