[Mdpobc] Question of the day

Mon Nov 18 03:28:24 UTC 2013

Ms. Lentz
you are an amazing TVI!!!  I thought these emails were just between parents of blind children, but appreciated so much your comments!
Jill Richmond

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lentz 
  To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List 
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day

  I loved reading all your comments to Trudy's question. In fact I cut & pasted them into a Word document & shared it with the TVIs in Fairfax County VA where I teach. I think I'll also send it to the parents of one of my students, who want their advanced placement 3rd grader to be able to use audio & do her work orally because she reads braille slowly. It's been very frustrating! I feel the way you all do about keeping her hands on the braille! Thank you.

  On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kyle Richmond <Kyle.Richmond2009 at comcast.net> wrote:

    Although Dezman makes a really good point and using audio books as an adjunct to braille is certainly useful, I would advise any parent of a blind student NOT to mention this at an IEP meeting... just saying ....
    Jill 

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Trudy Pickrel 
      To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List 
      Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:41 PM
      Subject: Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day

      Great point Dezman. 

      Trudy Pickrel 
      President Md Parent Blind Children. 
      301-501-1818
      Www.TLCbytheLake.com

      On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org> wrote:

        I would say that if braille reading speed is an issue, using the audio books as an adjunct to braille could be useful in that he would read along with the audio book to get his mind and fingers accustomed to a normal speed.  However, in no way allow the audio to be provided in place of braille, braille, braille!  I also think that it’s much easier to expand ones vocabulary when dealing with the written word.

        Dezman

        From: Mdpobc [mailto:mdpobc-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs
        Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:19 PM
        To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List
        Subject: Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day

        Ever try a cookbook on tape???  That'll cure the audeo-book thing, for sure!!!  When I'm cooking in my kitchen, I have my Braille book spread out on my dining room table opened to the recipe and I can simply run back and forth to read over it with my fingers.  Now, with a book on tape, it probably would take hours and hours to rewind something to the ingredient or set of instructions and I simply would find that intolerable!!!  

        Braille doesn't require batteries.  It doesn't crash.  It's so much easier when you wish to look up a given passage or statement with the Braille under your fingers.  If you need the correct spelling of a word, it's so much easier when it's under your fingers.  Need any more reasons for Braille???  After all, I'm speaking here, from the voice of experience and have been for some 50 years.  Went K-12; then to college; and till the day I die Honey!!!  Got Braille all over my house and as much as Virginia hates me to do it, I make sure she keeps up her skill as well.  Go BRAILLE!!!  Bernie

        On 11/13/2013 10:50 AM, dpws at aol.com wrote:

          Personally I agree that braille under fingers is very important.  As the child progresses in school, he or she needs to learn the proper spelling of words, sentence structure and punctuation.  That can only be learned from reading books, not listening to them.  These skills are imperative in high school, college and the working world.  Furthermore, many books are now available for download onto Braille notetakers and computers with braille displays so the school can't say they take up too much room now!  It is fine to want reading to be enjoyable so hopefully the teacher encourages required reading outside of the coursework allowing students to pick something of interest for them.  This would be a great time for the use of audio books.

          As your son moves to high school and college, he will need to become proficient in the use of audiobooks for cousework; but make sure that braille is available as much as possible.  My son used braille as his primary preference all the way through college because he liked being able to refer back to passages and found them easier to find in braille than on audiobooks.  He also enjoyed reading to himself much more than listening to the audiobooks because they honestly bored him to sleep.

          Good luck and keep advocating!

          Cherlynn Venit (mom to David Rissling-Venit)

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Trudy Pickrel <tlpickrel at hotmail.com>
          To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
          Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 12:48 pm
          Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the day

So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been allowing our son in six grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants  reading to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this.  Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their  concern is slowness and enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition.   What is your thoughts Trudy PickrelPresident Md Parent Blind Children. 301-501-1818Www.TLCbytheLake.com  _______________________________________________Mdpobc mailing listMdpobc at nfbnet.orghttp://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.orgTo unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Mdpobc:http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/dpws%40aol.com

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