[Mdpobc] Question of the day

[Nancy Lentz]

I understood that the POBC was for teachers too! I enjoy many of your
comments. Helps me see the parents' perspective.


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Kyle Richmond <
Kyle.Richmond2009 at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Ms. Lentz
> you are an amazing TVI!!!  I thought these emails were just between
> parents of blind children, but appreciated so much your comments!
> Jill Richmond
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Nancy Lentz <nlentz74 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>
> I loved reading all your comments to Trudy's question. In fact I cut &
> pasted them into a Word document & shared it with the TVIs in Fairfax
> County VA where I teach. I think I'll also send it to the parents of one of
> my students, who want their advanced placement 3rd grader to be able to use
> audio & do her work orally because she reads braille slowly. It's been very
> frustrating! I feel the way you all do about keeping her hands on the
> braille! Thank you.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kyle Richmond <
> Kyle.Richmond2009 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>  Although Dezman makes a really good point and using audio books as an
>> adjunct to braille is certainly useful, I would advise any parent of a
>> blind student NOT to mention this at an IEP meeting... just saying ....
>> Jill
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Trudy Pickrel <tlpickrel at hotmail.com>
>>  *To:* Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
>>  *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:41 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>>
>> Great point Dezman.
>>
>> Trudy Pickrel
>> President Md Parent Blind Children.
>> 301-501-1818
>> Www.TLCbytheLake.com <http://www.TLCbytheLake.com>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org> wrote:
>>
>>   I would say that if braille reading speed is an issue, using the audio
>> books as an adjunct to braille could be useful in that he would read along
>> with the audio book to get his mind and fingers accustomed to a normal
>> speed.  However, in no way allow the audio to be provided in place of
>> braille, braille, braille!  I also think that it’s much easier to expand
>> ones vocabulary when dealing with the written word.
>>
>>  Dezman
>>
>>   *From:* Mdpobc [mailto:mdpobc-bounces at nfbnet.org<mdpobc-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Bernadette Jacobs
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:19 PM
>> *To:* Maryland Parents of Blind Children List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>>
>>  Ever try a cookbook on tape???  That'll cure the audeo-book thing, for
>> sure!!!  When I'm cooking in my kitchen, I have my Braille book spread out
>> on my dining room table opened to the recipe and I can simply run back and
>> forth to read over it with my fingers.  Now, with a book on tape, it
>> probably would take hours and hours to rewind something to the ingredient
>> or set of instructions and I simply would find that intolerable!!!
>>
>> Braille doesn't require batteries.  It doesn't crash.  It's so much
>> easier when you wish to look up a given passage or statement with the
>> Braille under your fingers.  If you need the correct spelling of a word,
>> it's so much easier when it's under your fingers.  Need any more reasons
>> for Braille???  After all, I'm speaking here, from the voice of experience
>> and have been for some 50 years.  Went K-12; then to college; and till the
>> day I die Honey!!!  Got Braille all over my house and as much as Virginia
>> hates me to do it, I make sure she keeps up her skill as well.  Go
>> BRAILLE!!!  Bernie
>>
>> On 11/13/2013 10:50 AM, dpws at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>   Personally I agree that braille under fingers is very important.  As
>> the child progresses in school, he or she needs to learn the proper
>> spelling of words, sentence structure and punctuation.  That can only be
>> learned from reading books, not listening to them.  These skills are
>> imperative in high school, college and the working world.  Furthermore,
>> many books are now available for download onto Braille notetakers and
>> computers with braille displays so the school can't say they take up too
>> much room now!  It is fine to want reading to be enjoyable so hopefully the
>> teacher encourages required reading outside of the coursework allowing
>> students to pick something of interest for them.  This would be a great
>> time for the use of audio books.
>>
>>  As your son moves to high school and college, he will need to become
>> proficient in the use of audiobooks for cousework; but make sure that
>> braille is available as much as possible.  My son used braille as his
>> primary preference all the way through college because he liked being able
>> to refer back to passages and found them easier to find in braille than on
>> audiobooks.  He also enjoyed reading to himself much more than listening to
>> the audiobooks because they honestly bored him to sleep.
>>
>>  Good luck and keep advocating!
>>
>>  Cherlynn Venit (mom to David Rissling-Venit)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trudy Pickrel <tlpickrel at hotmail.com> <tlpickrel at hotmail.com>
>> To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org><mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 12:48 pm
>> Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>>
>> So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been
>>
>> allowing our son in six grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The
>>
>> language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this
>>
>> after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants  reading
>>
>> to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their  concern is slowness and
>>
>> enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is your thoughts
>>
>>
>>
>> Trudy Pickrel
>>
>> President Md Parent Blind Children.
>>
>> 301-501-1818
>>
>> Www.TLCbytheLake.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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