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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 2px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"><FONT size=2>I don't have much to add as Karen, Wendy and Jill have very effectively expressed my thoughts. Jason had all Braille through Middle School although in <SPAN id=misspell-0><SPAN>resource</SPAN></SPAN> time with his <SPAN id=misspell-1 class=mark>TBVI's</SPAN> they did work on learning the Victor reader and Stream. Books for the Reader and Stream were not school books, they were for pleasure reading and learning to use the technology. I was told by Jason's <SPAN id=misspell-2 class=mark>TBVI's</SPAN> that since in advanced grades and college some books will be audio the students need to be proficient in learning by listening. Technology is changing so much of that. Jason does some audio but tends to blue tooth his Braille Note to computer or <SPAN
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">They said there were some that used Audio books<BR><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">Trudy <SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>Pickrel</SPAN>
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Wendy <SPAN id=misspell-8 class=mark>Nusbaum</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com">wendynusbaum@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I thought of one more thing. If they want reading to be "enjoyable" does that mean for everyone? Are the print readers getting to use audio books if they don't like to read print?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="COLOR: #333333"><I>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G <SPAN id=misspell-9 class=mark>LTE</SPAN> DROID</I></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Trudy <SPAN id=misspell-10 class=mark>Pickrel</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com">tlpickrel@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">Thank you all. Wonderful words to take to <SPAN id=misspell-11 class=mark>IEP</SPAN> next week. <SPAN id=misspell-12 class=mark>Ahhhh</SPAN>. Hate that it always feels like me against them</DIV>
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<DIV>Love that. If not proficient in Braille he is basically illiterate and they will be responsible for that.</DIV>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">Trudy <SPAN id=misspell-13 class=mark>Pickrel</SPAN>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><BR style="RIGHT: auto">On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Wendy <SPAN id=misspell-14 class=mark>Nusbaum</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com">wendynusbaum@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with Karen. Our kids have to be proficient in Braille before audio books become the standard. </DIV>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">With that said now that Chris is in HS he is working from one audio textbook. Mainly because the edition he needed was not available in Braille. I did not fight this because I have been told by college students that they wished they had done more audio learning in HS since many of their textbooks had not been available in Braille. </DIV>
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<DIV>Basically they have to be good at both but Braille should come first. Tell them if he is not proficient in Braille he is basically illiterate and they will be responsible for that.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="COLOR: #333333"><I>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G <SPAN id=misspell-15 class=mark>LTE</SPAN> DROID</I></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Karen <SPAN id=misspell-16 class=mark>Frech</SPAN> <SPAN id=misspell-17 class=mark>Herstein</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:hersteink@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:hersteink@hotmail.com">hersteink@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto" dir=ltr>Hi Trudy,
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">I would want my child to be fast and proficient with Braille before I would let him/her use <SPAN id=misspell-18 class=mark>adible</SPAN> books. I would want my sighted child to be proficient in reading print before he/she used <SPAN id=misspell-19 class=mark>adible</SPAN> books. My daughter "loves" to read books and she did not use <SPAN id=misspell-20 class=mark>adible</SPAN> books unless Braille was not available. Braille <SPAN id=misspell-21 class=mark>wasavailable</SPAN> almost all the time.</DIV>
<DIV>Good Luck!</DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">Karen <SPAN id=misspell-22 class=mark>Herstein</SPAN><BR><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">> From: <A href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com">tlpickrel@hotmail.com</A><BR>> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:48:00 -0500<BR>> To: <A href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org">mdpobc@nfbnet.org</A><BR>> Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the day<BR>> <BR>> So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been allowing our son in six grade to do all <SPAN id=misspell-24 class=mark>audiobooks</SPAN>. Reason why I don't know. The language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants reading to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this. <BR>> <BR>> Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their concern is slowness and enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition. <BR>>
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