<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Jill</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>What is an IPE?</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Susan <br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Kyle Richmond <Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc@nfbnet.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 13, 2013
5:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8624567825"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I do have a question for tomorrow! Are there
any parents out there who help their college aged kids with establishing
services and an IPE with DORS and, if so, what is your experience? I am
having a heck of a time!! any thoughts/advice, appreciated</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jill</font></div>
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<a title="tlpickrel@hotmail.com" href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com">Trudy
Pickrel</a> </div>
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<div>Thank you girls. Those were all my thought just put in a very quality
points to take with me. </div>
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<div>Parents we need to be using this List serv for these exact
purposes. </div>
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<div>Who has the question for tomorrow? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div>Trudy Pickrel
<div>President Md Parent Blind Children. </div>
<div>301-501-1818</div>
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<div><br clear="none">On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Kyle Richmond" <<a href="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net">Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net</a>>
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</div></blockquote></blockquote></div><style></style><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I agree with what Wendy said in her message. My
son is now in college and, although it is true that they need to know how to
use audio books and audio technology in college, they can pick this up
quickly the last year or 2 in high school. As parents of blind
children, we cannot let the school systems squeeze out of this one by
leaning towards audio books now that they are more "popular." All kids
still need to learn how to read and write and that means
BRAILLE.</font></div>
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<a title="wendynusbaum@yahoo.com" href="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wendynusbaum@yahoo.com">Wendy
Nusbaum</a> </div>
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<div>Trudy</div>
<div>I agree with Karen. Our kids have to be proficient in Braille before
audio books become the standard. </div>
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<div>With that said now that Chris is in HS he is working from one audio
textbook. Mainly because the edition he needed was not available in
Braille. I did not fight this because I have been told by college students
that they wished they had done more audio learning in HS since many of
their textbooks had not been available in Braille. </div>
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<div>Basically they have to be good at both but Braille should come
first. Tell them if he is not proficient in Braille he is basically
illiterate and they will be responsible for that.</div>
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<div>Wendy </div>
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<div><font style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
DROID</i></font></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Karen Frech Herstein <<a href="mailto:hersteink@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hersteink@hotmail.com">hersteink@hotmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Trudy,
<div>I would want my child to be fast and proficient with Braille before I
would let him/her use adible books. I would want my sighted child to be
proficient in reading print before he/she used adible books. My daughter
"loves" to read books and she did not use adible books unless Braille was
not available. Braille wasavailable almost all the time.</div>
<div>Good Luck!</div>
<div>Karen Herstein<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div>> From: <a href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com">tlpickrel@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:48:00 -0500<br clear="none">> To: <a href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org">mdpobc@nfbnet.org</a><br clear="none">> Subject:
[Mdpobc] Question of the day<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> So last night at parent
teacher conference I find out that they have been allowing our son in six
grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The language arts
teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this after I
stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants reading to
be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Mine is
No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their concern is slowness and
enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>
What is your thoughts<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Trudy Pickrel<br clear="none">> President Md
Parent Blind Children. <br clear="none">> 301-501-1818<br clear="none">> <a href="http://www.tlcbythelake.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.tlcbythelake.com/</a><br clear="none">>
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