<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Parents we do have wonderful TVI looking for answers to help them be better Teachers on here too. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you again for all your help. <br><br><div>Trudy Pickrel<div>President Md Parent Blind Children. </div><div>301-501-1818</div><div><a href="http://Www.TLCbytheLake.com">Www.TLCbytheLake.com</a></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:28 PM, "Kyle Richmond" <<a href="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net">Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Ms. Lentz</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">you are an amazing TVI!!! I thought these
emails were just between parents of blind children, but appreciated so much your
comments!</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Jill Richmond</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:32
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<div dir="ltr">I loved reading all your comments to Trudy's question. In fact I
cut & pasted them into a Word document & shared it with the TVIs in
Fairfax County VA where I teach. I think I'll also send it to the parents of
one of my students, who want their advanced placement 3rd grader to be able to
use audio & do her work orally because she reads braille slowly. It's been
very frustrating! I feel the way you all do about keeping her hands on the
braille! Thank you.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kyle Richmond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net" target="_blank">Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial">Although Dezman makes a really good point and using
audio books as an adjunct to braille is certainly useful, I would advise any
parent of a blind student NOT to mention this at an IEP meeting... just
saying ....</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Jill </font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="tlpickrel@hotmail.com" href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" target="_blank">Trudy Pickrel</a> </div></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013
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<div>Great point Dezman. <br><br>
<div>Trudy Pickrel
<div>President Md Parent Blind Children. </div>
<div><a href="tel:301-501-1818" target="_blank" value="+13015011818">301-501-1818</a></div>
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<div><br>On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dezman Jackson <<a href="mailto:djackson@BISM.org" target="_blank">djackson@BISM.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
would say that if braille reading speed is an issue, using the audio
books as an adjunct to braille could be useful in that he would read
along with the audio book to get his mind and fingers accustomed to a
normal speed. However, in no way allow the audio to be provided in
place of braille, braille, braille! I also think that it’s much
easier to expand ones vocabulary when dealing with the written
word.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dezman<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Mdpobc [<a href="mailto:mdpobc-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">mailto:mdpobc-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Bernadette Jacobs<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:19
PM<br><b>To:</b> Maryland Parents of Blind Children
List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ever try a cookbook on tape??? That'll cure the
audeo-book thing, for sure!!! When I'm cooking in my kitchen, I
have my Braille book spread out on my dining room table opened to the
recipe and I can simply run back and forth to read over it with my
fingers. Now, with a book on tape, it probably would take hours
and hours to rewind something to the ingredient or set of instructions
and I simply would find that intolerable!!! <br><br>Braille
doesn't require batteries. It doesn't crash. It's so much
easier when you wish to look up a given passage or statement with the
Braille under your fingers. If you need the correct spelling of a
word, it's so much easier when it's under your fingers. Need any
more reasons for Braille??? After all, I'm speaking here, from the
voice of experience and have been for some 50 years. Went K-12;
then to college; and till the day I die Honey!!! Got Braille all
over my house and as much as Virginia hates me to do it, I make sure she
keeps up her skill as well. Go BRAILLE!!!
Bernie<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/13/2013 10:50 AM, <a href="mailto:dpws@aol.com" target="_blank">dpws@aol.com</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally I agree that braille under fingers is
very important. As the child progresses in school, he or she
needs to learn the proper spelling of words, sentence structure and
punctuation. That can only be learned from reading books, not
listening to them. These skills are imperative in high school,
college and the working world. Furthermore, many books are now
available for download onto Braille notetakers and computers with
braille displays so the school can't say they take up too much room
now! It is fine to want reading to be enjoyable so hopefully the
teacher encourages required reading outside of the coursework allowing
students to pick something of interest for them. This would be a
great time for the use of audio books.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As your son moves to high school and college, he
will need to become proficient in the use of audiobooks for cousework;
but make sure that braille is available as much as possible. My
son used braille as his primary preference all the way through college
because he liked being able to refer back to passages and found them
easier to find in braille than on audiobooks. He also enjoyed
reading to himself much more than listening to the audiobooks because
they honestly bored him to sleep.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck and keep
advocating!<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">Cherlynn Venit (mom to
David Rissling-Venit)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Message-----<br>From: Trudy Pickrel <a href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><tlpickrel@hotmail.com></a><br>To: Maryland
Parents of Blind Children List <a href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><mdpobc@nfbnet.org></a><br>Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2013
12:48 pm<br>Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the day<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><pre><tt>So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>allowing our son in six grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants reading <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this. <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><u></u> <u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their concern is slowness and <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition. <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><u></u> <u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>What is your thoughts<u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><u></u> <u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>Trudy Pickrel<u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>President Md Parent Blind Children. <u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><a href="tel:301-501-1818" target="_blank" value="+13015011818">301-501-1818</a><u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><a href="http://Www.TLCbytheLake.com" target="_blank">Www.TLCbytheLake.com</a><u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><u></u> <u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><u></u> <u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>Mdpobc mailing list<u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><a href="mailto:Mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">Mdpobc@nfbnet.org</a><u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org</a><u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Mdpobc:<u></u><u></u></tt></pre><pre><tt><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/dpws%40aol.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/dpws%40aol.com</a><u></u><u></u></tt></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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