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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>that is wonderful!! thank you for your
support and kind words!</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=nlentz74@gmail.com href="mailto:nlentz74@gmail.com">Nancy Lentz</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mdpobc@nfbnet.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2013 6:00
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the
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<DIV dir=ltr>I understood that the POBC was for teachers too! I enjoy many of
your comments. Helps me see the parents' perspective.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Kyle Richmond <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net"
target=_blank>Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ms. Lentz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>you are an amazing TVI!!! I thought these emails
were just between parents of blind children, but appreciated so much your
comments!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jill Richmond</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=nlentz74@gmail.com href="mailto:nlentz74@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Nancy Lentz</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target=_blank>Maryland Parents of Blind
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2013
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<DIV dir=ltr>I loved reading all your comments to Trudy's question. In
fact I cut & pasted them into a Word document & shared it with the
TVIs in Fairfax County VA where I teach. I think I'll also send it to the
parents of one of my students, who want their advanced placement 3rd
grader to be able to use audio & do her work orally because she reads
braille slowly. It's been very frustrating! I feel the way you all do
about keeping her hands on the braille! Thank you.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kyle Richmond
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net"
target=_blank>Kyle.Richmond2009@comcast.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Although Dezman makes a really good point and
using audio books as an adjunct to braille is certainly useful, I would
advise any parent of a blind student NOT to mention this at an IEP
meeting... just saying ....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jill </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=tlpickrel@hotmail.com href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>Trudy Pickrel</A> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mdpobc@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target=_blank>Maryland Parents of
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 14, 2013
12:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mdpobc] Question of
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<DIV>Great point Dezman. <BR><BR>
<DIV>Trudy Pickrel
<DIV>President Md Parent Blind Children. </DIV>
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value="+13015011818">301-501-1818</A></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dezman Jackson <<A
href="mailto:djackson@BISM.org"
target=_blank>djackson@BISM.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
would say that if braille reading speed is an issue, using the audio
books as an adjunct to braille could be useful in that he would read
along with the audio book to get his mind and fingers accustomed to
a normal speed. However, in no way allow the audio to be
provided in place of braille, braille, braille! I also think
that it’s much easier to expand ones vocabulary when dealing with
the written word.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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Mdpobc [<A href="mailto:mdpobc-bounces@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>mailto:mdpobc-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Bernadette Jacobs<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 14, 2013
5:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Maryland Parents of Blind Children
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the
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<P class=MsoNormal>Ever try a cookbook on tape??? That'll cure
the audeo-book thing, for sure!!! When I'm cooking in my
kitchen, I have my Braille book spread out on my dining room table
opened to the recipe and I can simply run back and forth to read
over it with my fingers. Now, with a book on tape, it probably
would take hours and hours to rewind something to the ingredient or
set of instructions and I simply would find that
intolerable!!! <BR><BR>Braille doesn't require
batteries. It doesn't crash. It's so much easier when
you wish to look up a given passage or statement with the Braille
under your fingers. If you need the correct spelling of a
word, it's so much easier when it's under your fingers. Need
any more reasons for Braille??? After all, I'm speaking here,
from the voice of experience and have been for some 50 years.
Went K-12; then to college; and till the day I die Honey!!!
Got Braille all over my house and as much as Virginia hates me to do
it, I make sure she keeps up her skill as well. Go
BRAILLE!!! Bernie<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 11/13/2013 10:50 AM, <A
href="mailto:dpws@aol.com" target=_blank>dpws@aol.com</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Personally I agree that braille under fingers
is very important. As the child progresses in school, he or
she needs to learn the proper spelling of words, sentence
structure and punctuation. That can only be learned from
reading books, not listening to them. These skills are
imperative in high school, college and the working world.
Furthermore, many books are now available for download onto
Braille notetakers and computers with braille displays so the
school can't say they take up too much room now! It is fine
to want reading to be enjoyable so hopefully the teacher
encourages required reading outside of the coursework allowing
students to pick something of interest for them. This would
be a great time for the use of audio
books.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>As your son moves to high school and college,
he will need to become proficient in the use of audiobooks for
cousework; but make sure that braille is available as much as
possible. My son used braille as his primary preference all
the way through college because he liked being able to refer back
to passages and found them easier to find in braille than on
audiobooks. He also enjoyed reading to himself much more
than listening to the audiobooks because they honestly bored him
to sleep.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Good luck and keep
advocating!<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Cherlynn Venit (mom
to David Rissling-Venit)<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Trudy Pickrel <A
href="mailto:tlpickrel@hotmail.com"
target=_blank><tlpickrel@hotmail.com></A><BR>To: Maryland
Parents of Blind Children List <A href="mailto:mdpobc@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank><mdpobc@nfbnet.org></A><BR>Sent: Wed, Nov 13,
2013 12:48 pm<BR>Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the
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<DIV><PRE><TT>So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>allowing our son in six grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants reading <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this. <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><U></U> <U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their concern is slowness and <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition. <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><U></U> <U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>What is your thoughts<U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><U></U> <U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>Trudy Pickrel<U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>President Md Parent Blind Children. <U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><A href="tel:301-501-1818" target=_blank value="+13015011818">301-501-1818</A><U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><A href="http://Www.TLCbytheLake.com" target=_blank>Www.TLCbytheLake.com</A><U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><U></U> <U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><U></U> <U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>_______________________________________________<U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>Mdpobc mailing list<U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><A href="mailto:Mdpobc@nfbnet.org" target=_blank>Mdpobc@nfbnet.org</A><U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><A href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org" target=_blank>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org</A><U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Mdpobc:<U></U><U></U></TT></PRE><PRE><TT><A href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/dpws%40aol.com" target=_blank>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/dpws%40aol.com</A><U></U><U></U></TT></PRE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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