[musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility Question

Jorge Paez jorgeapaez at mac.com
Fri Dec 31 15:22:14 UTC 2010 

And if you don't will they ship you one?

On Dec 30, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Cameron wrote:

> Hi.  I'd go for online, as long as you have an Ilok.  It's an overnight
> download if you have broad band.  Approx Four point six gigs.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jorge Paez
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:33 PM
> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility Question
> 
> Yep, I got the headset to take care of that.
> Is it better to buy an online version or a physical copy?
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Cameron wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  PT9 does not require an interface.  However, for best results, you'd
>> want to use another audio device for voiceover output.  For example, you
>> could use a thirty dollar USB headset for voiceover output.
>> 
>> There are included plug ins with pro tools 9 and there are various free
> plug
>> ins and virtual instruments online.  Waves and many other companies have
>> decent basic packages for a reasonable price, or, you can buy individual
>> plug ins.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:19 PM
>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility Question
>> 
>> I sorta get it.
>> Not clearly, but I get the general idea.
>> My question would be then, are these plugins free?
>> 
>> Also, is it true you would not need an interphase now with Protools 9?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Cameron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  third party plug ins have certain things that are not accessible,
>> like
>>> custom menus and graphic controls etc.  however, automatable parameters
>> for
>>> a plug in, for example, reverb and delay controls, compressor parameters,
>>> etc, are controllable via a control surface.
>>> 
>>> I hope that clears it up a bit.
>>> 
>>> In case you have experience with sonar on a windows pc, this is not the
>>> same.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jorge Paez
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:35 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility
> Question
>>> 
>>> Yes, somewhat.
>>> What do you mean by automation though?
>>> And, what plugins are avalible to the blind?
>>> I've heard Protools has an extensive architecture of plugins,
>>> but what exactly do they do?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi.  Yes, you can certainly do a ton with the keyboard.  However,
>>> recording
>>>> various automatable events can be a lot quicker with a control surface.
>>>> Also, plug ins are accessible in pro tools via automatable parameters,
>>> which
>>>> you can modify using virtual pots on a control surface.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that clears it up a bit.
>>>> 
>>>> Cameron.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>>>> Behalf Of Jorge Paez
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:00 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility
>> Question
>>>> 
>>>> So I need a contrl surface, even for Protools?
>>>> I thought the trick with Protools was that I could do everything from
> the
>>>> computer keyboard.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Cameron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.  there will be no Logic accessibility improvements until the next
>>>> major
>>>>> release, probably later than that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pro tools nine is quite accessible for audio work.  Most of the
>>>> limitations
>>>>> involve things like the midi event list editor etc.  a control surface
>> is
>>>>> highly recommended.  Try to find a second hand Mackie control universal
>>> or
>>>>> universal pro.  The other option is to go for a tascam FW1884 or an m
>>>> audio
>>>>> project mix.  You can find all of those on e bay etc for less than a
>>>>> thousand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jorge Paez
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:20 PM
>>>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [musictlk] Logic Express Or Protools - Accessibility Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>> My name is Jorge.
>>>>> I'm currently a Logic Express user, but I'm looking for some way to
> make
>>>> it
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> For now, they tell me that the only way is to buy a control surface
>>>> (priced
>>>>> at about $12,600)
>>>>> So I was looking at getting a Protools license instead.
>>>>> Is it worth it?
>>>>> Is Protools truly accessible, as they claim?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, better yet, is their any way to make Logic Express, which I
>> currently
>>>>> have, more accessible on the Mac for under $1,000?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.5 and Logic Express 9.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> (haven't upgraded to the latest because I found a weird bug in it)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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