[musictlk] music lessons

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From: "Bob" <robertjmoore at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:49 AM
To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [musictlk] music lessons

> Since you brought it up. If any one is looking for instructions on
> learning to play guitar and a whole host of other instruments such as
> key board, bass, drums and I am not sure what else.
> I have ordered some stuff from a guy named Bill Brown from Georgia and I
> like his teaching style. It is designed for the blind and I have never
> had any problem with his site and I am no on line junky by any stretch
> so if I have no problem navigating it then just about any one can handle
> it even with a really old version of JAWS like 7.1 or 7.0 which ever it
> was, not sure but you get the idea.
>
> Just do a search for
> Bill Brown's music by ear and you will find it. I don't have the web
> site handy at this point.
> Hope this is some help to some one.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Michael
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and Websites
>
> I was directed to a web site that sells guitar instruction via audio
> format
> called talkingtabs.com.  Upon opening this site I too couldn't shut off
> the
> instant commercial about the site that immediately began, prohibiting me
>
> from hearing my screen reader.  This site was begun by a father whose
> son
> lost his sight and needed a substitute for the sports that he had
> participated in and found nearly no guitar instruction with enough audio
>
> format.  You would think that he, of all people, would be aware of the
> accessibility challenges of such a commercial.
>
> Michael
>
> Michael----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and Websites
>
>
>> Joshua:
>>
>> I believe all of us share your frustration.  However, I wonder if
> you've
>> pondered the following questions:
>>
>> (1) To what extent do these blind musicians (yes, including Ronnie
>> Millsap)
>> have control over their own affairs and to what extent are they "kept"
>> people?  Lest you think I'm casting aspersions on blind musicians,
> plenty
>> of
>> sighted musicians (famous and otherwise) are also "kept".
> Specifically,
>> how
>> much control or knowledge do they even have over their own websites?
>>
>> (2) You desire an enforcement mechanism.  What would it be, who would
> do
>> the
>> enforcing and, perhaps most importantly, who would pay for the
>> enforcement?
>> What leverage would we have, considering that we're a small minority
> and
>> that these websites may or may not be places of public accommodation
> under
>> the Americans with Disabilities Act?  NFB can't sue the
> owners/operators
>> of
>> every website.
>>
>> The only viable option is to try to contact the website administrators
> to
>> try to get them to change.  This may require sighted assistance.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:22 PM
>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and Websites
>>
>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester. Before the moderator accuses me of going off
>> topic, this has something to do with musicians. I'm tired of musicians
>> in general putting inaccessible contact forms on their sites. Those
>> forms include security codes, that we have to type in, in order for
>> the E-mails to send. I'm fine with security, but they should do what
>> some sites are already doing. They're putting an audio file there, so
>> you can hear those characters, that they want you to type in. Two
>> sites of interest, are of blind musicians. Gordon Mote, and Ronnie
>> Milsap have inaccessible forms on their sites. Gordon, is a Southern
>> Gospel singer/musician, and Ronnie Milsap is a famous Country star.
>> They're both blind. They should have thought about that. I have also
>> noticed that some sites have music as soon as you go on their site.
>> You can't shut it up! It's hard to hear Jaws reading something, when
>> their music is blasting at you! I can hit escape, on some sites, and
>> that shuts it up. Some sites, however, aren't that easy. What I'm
>> calling for is across-the-board accessibility regulations on all
>> Websites, be they music, news, or other. I'm tired of this mess! These
>> people should be more considerate.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
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