[musictlk] music lessons

Michael bonsai1b at bellsouth.net
Sat Feb 12 20:14:16 UTC 2011


As I said, Ive never used Bill Brown's piano stuff from the NLS, but I have 
checked out Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, and some other pretty heavy stuff by 
Bill Brown from the NLS.

Michael
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [musictlk] music lessons


> Yes.
> I do use the NLS,
> but they only have classical stuff.
>
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>> Dont know if you have ever used the music library of the NLS but the 
>> phone number I think is 1 800 424 8567.  You can check out all of Bill 
>> Brown's stuff here.  I am currently working on The Girl From Ipanema by 
>> using his tapes from the NLS.  I play primarily jazz fingerstyle.
>>
>> Michael
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] music lessons
>>
>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>>
>>> I've been looking for a resource where I can learn more contemporary 
>>> stuff then just classical music--I like Classical,
>>> but I need a couple of pieces to be able to play for other ocations.
>>>
>>> Anyway thanks,
>>> I just heard a sample of one of his tracks and its great.
>>>
>>> Really like his teaching styles.
>>>
>>> If you get the CD,
>>>
>>> is each portion of the piece a track on the CD?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> George
>>>> Ive never used his piano material but if it is like his guitar 
>>>> instruction, he plays the arrangement through and then breaks the song 
>>>> down in one or two measure segments and teaches the measures as he 
>>>> goes.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] music lessons
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>> I'm on the piano site now and I heard the sample
>>>>> and he's just playing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does he teach what he sells?
>>>>>
>>>>> Like, play and then teach it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Bob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you brought it up. If any one is looking for instructions on
>>>>>> learning to play guitar and a whole host of other instruments such as
>>>>>> key board, bass, drums and I am not sure what else.
>>>>>> I have ordered some stuff from a guy named Bill Brown from Georgia 
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> like his teaching style. It is designed for the blind and I have 
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> had any problem with his site and I am no on line junky by any 
>>>>>> stretch
>>>>>> so if I have no problem navigating it then just about any one can 
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>> it even with a really old version of JAWS like 7.1 or 7.0 which ever 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> was, not sure but you get the idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just do a search for
>>>>>> Bill Brown's music by ear and you will find it. I don't have the web
>>>>>> site handy at this point.
>>>>>> Hope this is some help to some one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>> [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Michael
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:35 AM
>>>>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and 
>>>>>> Websites
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was directed to a web site that sells guitar instruction via audio
>>>>>> format
>>>>>> called talkingtabs.com.  Upon opening this site I too couldn't shut 
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> instant commercial about the site that immediately began, prohibiting 
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from hearing my screen reader.  This site was begun by a father whose
>>>>>> son
>>>>>> lost his sight and needed a substitute for the sports that he had
>>>>>> participated in and found nearly no guitar instruction with enough 
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> format.  You would think that he, of all people, would be aware of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> accessibility challenges of such a commercial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" 
>>>>>> <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:03 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and 
>>>>>> Websites
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joshua:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe all of us share your frustration.  However, I wonder if
>>>>>> you've
>>>>>>> pondered the following questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (1) To what extent do these blind musicians (yes, including Ronnie
>>>>>>> Millsap)
>>>>>>> have control over their own affairs and to what extent are they 
>>>>>>> "kept"
>>>>>>> people?  Lest you think I'm casting aspersions on blind musicians,
>>>>>> plenty
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> sighted musicians (famous and otherwise) are also "kept".
>>>>>> Specifically,
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> much control or knowledge do they even have over their own websites?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (2) You desire an enforcement mechanism.  What would it be, who 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> enforcing and, perhaps most importantly, who would pay for the
>>>>>>> enforcement?
>>>>>>> What leverage would we have, considering that we're a small minority
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that these websites may or may not be places of public accommodation
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> the Americans with Disabilities Act?  NFB can't sue the
>>>>>> owners/operators
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> every website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only viable option is to try to contact the website 
>>>>>>> administrators
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> try to get them to change.  This may require sighted assistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>> [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and Websites
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester. Before the moderator accuses me of going off
>>>>>>> topic, this has something to do with musicians. I'm tired of 
>>>>>>> musicians
>>>>>>> in general putting inaccessible contact forms on their sites. Those
>>>>>>> forms include security codes, that we have to type in, in order for
>>>>>>> the E-mails to send. I'm fine with security, but they should do what
>>>>>>> some sites are already doing. They're putting an audio file there, 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> you can hear those characters, that they want you to type in. Two
>>>>>>> sites of interest, are of blind musicians. Gordon Mote, and Ronnie
>>>>>>> Milsap have inaccessible forms on their sites. Gordon, is a Southern
>>>>>>> Gospel singer/musician, and Ronnie Milsap is a famous Country star.
>>>>>>> They're both blind. They should have thought about that. I have also
>>>>>>> noticed that some sites have music as soon as you go on their site.
>>>>>>> You can't shut it up! It's hard to hear Jaws reading something, when
>>>>>>> their music is blasting at you! I can hit escape, on some sites, and
>>>>>>> that shuts it up. Some sites, however, aren't that easy. What I'm
>>>>>>> calling for is across-the-board accessibility regulations on all
>>>>>>> Websites, be they music, news, or other. I'm tired of this mess! 
>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>> people should be more considerate.
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>
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