[musictlk] music lessons

humberto humbertoa5369 at netzero.net
Sun Feb 13 04:24:59 UTC 2011


And why are you posting advertisements on this list?

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>Date sent: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:57:53 -0800
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] music lessons

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>From: "Bob" <robertjmoore at embarqmail.com
>Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:49 AM
>To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [musictlk] music lessons

>> Since you brought it up. If any one is looking for instructions 
on
>> learning to play guitar and a whole host of other instruments 
such as
>> key board, bass, drums and I am not sure what else.
>> I have ordered some stuff from a guy named Bill Brown from 
Georgia and I
>> like his teaching style. It is designed for the blind and I have 
never
>> had any problem with his site and I am no on line junky by any 
stretch
>> so if I have no problem navigating it then just about any one 
can handle
>> it even with a really old version of JAWS like 7.1 or 7.0 which 
ever it
>> was, not sure but you get the idea.

>> Just do a search for
>> Bill Brown's music by ear and you will find it. I don't have the 
web
>> site handy at this point.
>> Hope this is some help to some one.


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Michael
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:35 AM
>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and 
Websites

>> I was directed to a web site that sells guitar instruction via 
audio
>> format
>> called talkingtabs.com.  Upon opening this site I too couldn't 
shut off
>> the
>> instant commercial about the site that immediately began, 
prohibiting me

>> from hearing my screen reader.  This site was begun by a father 
whose
>> son
>> lost his sight and needed a substitute for the sports that he 
had
>> participated in and found nearly no guitar instruction with 
enough audio

>> format.  You would think that he, of all people, would be aware 
of the
>> accessibility challenges of such a commercial.

>> Michael

>> Michael----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
>> To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and 
Websites


>>> Joshua:

>>> I believe all of us share your frustration.  However, I wonder 
if
>> you've
>>> pondered the following questions:

>>> (1) To what extent do these blind musicians (yes, including 
Ronnie
>>> Millsap)
>>> have control over their own affairs and to what extent are they 
"kept"
>>> people?  Lest you think I'm casting aspersions on blind 
musicians,
>> plenty
>>> of
>>> sighted musicians (famous and otherwise) are also "kept".
>> Specifically,
>>> how
>>> much control or knowledge do they even have over their own 
websites?

>>> (2) You desire an enforcement mechanism.  What would it be, who 
would
>> do
>>> the
>>> enforcing and, perhaps most importantly, who would pay for the
>>> enforcement?
>>> What leverage would we have, considering that we're a small 
minority
>> and
>>> that these websites may or may not be places of public 
accommodation
>> under
>>> the Americans with Disabilities Act?  NFB can't sue the
>> owners/operators
>>> of
>>> every website.

>>> The only viable option is to try to contact the website 
administrators
>> to
>>> try to get them to change.  This may require sighted assistance.

>>> Good luck!

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:22 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: [musictlk] Inaccessible online contact forms and 
Websites

>>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester. Before the moderator accuses me of going 
off
>>> topic, this has something to do with musicians. I'm tired of 
musicians
>>> in general putting inaccessible contact forms on their sites. 
Those
>>> forms include security codes, that we have to type in, in order 
for
>>> the E-mails to send. I'm fine with security, but they should do 
what
>>> some sites are already doing. They're putting an audio file 
there, so
>>> you can hear those characters, that they want you to type in. 
Two
>>> sites of interest, are of blind musicians. Gordon Mote, and 
Ronnie
>>> Milsap have inaccessible forms on their sites. Gordon, is a 
Southern
>>> Gospel singer/musician, and Ronnie Milsap is a famous Country 
star.
>>> They're both blind. They should have thought about that. I have 
also
>>> noticed that some sites have music as soon as you go on their 
site.
>>> You can't shut it up! It's hard to hear Jaws reading something, 
when
>>> their music is blasting at you! I can hit escape, on some sites, 
and
>>> that shuts it up. Some sites, however, aren't that easy. What 
I'm
>>> calling for is across-the-board accessibility regulations on all
>>> Websites, be they music, news, or other. I'm tired of this mess! 
These
>>> people should be more considerate.
>>> Blessings, Joshua

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