[musictlk] Question for you all

Brandon Keith Biggs brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
Mon Jul 9 15:46:04 UTC 2012


Hello,
Learning on the job is another way to learn. That is often the way one does 
their last 5000 hours of practice. But it's often slower and often times one 
really only advances if they are moving around to different venues to play.
One has to be really lucky to make the above way work out for them, because 
who pays someone who can't play? (Oh pop music fans nvm...)
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- 
From: don nepple
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:52 AM
To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question for you all


hi let me wate in her now i play drums at my church and allso in another 
church and every week i play i learn about practeing drums and just when not 
too put in falles that is like a deble gbet or a role so you learn too 
pracet every week with other people and theise people are not blind in the 
other church we rock out and play havvy geters.so you do not learn but i did 
not have a teacher too teach me drums when i was verry youn i played drums 
on my brother set.any rember the mor pracet the mor you get better.allso you 
must think about your doning and lissen too the other plaers in the ban.well 
their you go.don.


> From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:03:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question for you all
>
> Hello,
> Honestly I've also said this once, many others have said it before me:
> You can't just "Learn" an instrument. It probably takes 1000 hours of
> practice to be passible, it takes 5 thousand hours to be good and it takes
> 10000 hours of practice to be a master.
> Most of those hours have to be under a teacher who will check up on you
> every week or so, pointing you at new pieces and fixing your technique. 
> The
> others are practice practice practice!
> There was a button in my local music store that said: Excuse me, I've got 
> to
> practice.
> It seems as that is the end of the majority of my conversations. I'm 
> sorry,
> I've got to practice, I'll see you later, I've got to practice. I've got a
> practice room waiting for me...
> What are you doing this summer? Practicing!!!
> 1000 hours of practice is one hour a day for about 3 years. Every single 
> day
> one hour. I round it off to 3 years because of course there will be more 
> or
> less days where you can't practice and or whereyou will go over that one
> hour, but 3 years is about passible level. Before that what you are doing 
> is
> chicken squawks and honking toots on your instrument. I've been singing
> about one hour a day for 2 years and I know I sound no where as near as 
> good
> as the professionals I hear. I suspect it won't be till about 8 or so more
> years before I really begin to notice that I'm getting good. When I'm 30 
> in
> 10 years is when I'll be good and when I turn 45 15 years later I should 
> be
> considered a master. Of course once I reach the 30 mark I should be 
> starting
> my professional work, so my practice will probably move from 1-2 hours a 
> day
> to 2-4 hours a day on top of a performance.
>
> I'm saying this because one can't just "learn to play an instrument", one
> has to practice to learn. Most of playing an instrument is self discovery
> and self experimentation. I believe the performing arts division condones
> somewhat these lessons, but many of the serious players on this list 
> really
> feel insulted when someone thinks they can learn an instrument over the
> phone or over Skype.
> I'd be glad to teach you, but not for free and my lessons would come with 
> a
> disclaimer that I'm not responsible for any minor errors in your playing. 
> If
> you are flexing your legs super hard when you sing, I'm not going to know
> that unless I just happen to spot it with my ears and guess what you're
> doing. Also, if you're going 123, 123, 12, for the C major scale at first,
> it may be a few practice sessions before I catch what you're doing.
>
>
> We had a huge argument on this at the musicians meeting at the NFB
> convention, if teachers want to teach feel free. If students want to 
> learn,
> go ahead, but there will be that break between the passible and good
> players.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Linda Mentink
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:49 PM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question for you all
>
> Hi Koby,
>
> I get the impression that you're looking for free lessons, and
> expecting the listers here to work with you. This is not very
> practical, nor will it be advantageous to you or your potential
> teacher. You want to learn many instruments this way, and this will
> be impossible. Figure out which instrument you want to learn. Then
> look for a teacher in your area who will be willing to work with you.
> You may contact the music stors in your area and ask some questions.
> Then you'll need to purchase or rent an instrument. You'll just have
> to work one-on-one with a teacher, as many here have done, and pay
> for the lessons.
>
> Why is it that many blind people expect something for nothing?
>
> You may also check out Bill Brown's audio courses at NLS.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
> At 11:44 AM 7/4/2012, you wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >Would any of you be welling to teach me how to play the flute?
> >Right back soon,
> >Koby
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
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