[musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
marissa
marissat789 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 13 21:53:18 UTC 2013
Hi all,
So I had my meeting and said that I needed braille music.
Learning by ear wasn't cutting it and I was sitting there in band
repeatedly bored and having nothing to do. I explained that I
needed braille music. So, They told me to email me my band
director the Dancing Dots information. Not very happy with this
one, but it'll do for noow.
Can someone send me the Dancing Dots info? Bill?
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Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 22:23:54 -0800
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Hello,
What she meant was bring in some recordings and if you have it
print
music. It doesn't matter that they can't read it, it looks
really
daunting to a sighted person to be handed something they can't
read.
(Really it is daunting to anyone).
Then if you start pulling out big words like articulation, tempi,
quarter notes, half notes, rests, repeats, da capi, codas, trills
and
octave marks, it will sound like you know what you are talking
about,
and most of the people who don't play music will think you are
really
serious. If they do know music, it should be very easy to
convince them
you need music, so there is nothing to worry about.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/12/2013 10:14 PM, marissa wrote:
Allright. I will let you know.
I don't have any music at all, so I don't know how I'm supposed
to
bring in pieces. Plus, no one can read music except my Science
teacher, and I'm not sure if she'll even be there.
Actually, I do have one piece, I just remembered. It is the
music
notation for Michael Jackson's "Bad" but is only the notes, like
1m: d f d f
2m: d d d f
Probably got that wrong. lol But you get the idea.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
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Date sent: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:06:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Regardless of who is there, your IEP is about you, not what is
necessarily best or easiest for the school or your band
director.
Whoever is there should understand why you're bringing this up;
it is
logical, and band is a subject you're taking too. As far as not
knowing braille music, you had to use regular braille in order
to
become proficient in reading it, just like sighted students
needed to
use print in order to become better readers. If they try to say
that
braille music would be a waste of time if you don't know it,
tell them
that it you will never learn if you don't get the exposure and
practice reading it. It's really more like the other subjects
than
most of the non-musical administrators in charge of this kind of
stuff
realize. The trick is getting them to recognize that at least
to the
point where it is written into your IEP and the band director is
a
little more on board.
Another tactic you might consider is to bring in some pieces you
are
playing in band right now, or even just talk about them a bit.
Do
they have fast runs? Is it difficult for you to hear which
articulations to use? Do you feel like you are unable to play to
your
full potential? I'm guessing these are all yes answers for you,
so
bringing up these points should really drive it home that you
want to
be more involved in band, and that this one hitch in not having
propper materials is what is really holding you back. You
definitely
have the capability of playing and performing as well as any
sighted
student in your class, but the difference is that everyone else
has
their music and you don't. That is a huge difference. Imagine
if
other kids in the band did not have music to play from; the band
would
not be able to function. A band needs everyone to play and
contribute
their part, so they need to give you the music in order for you
to do
so.
Good luck at your meeting tomorrow. I hope it goes well, and
let us
know what happens on the music front.
On 12/13/13, marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
**makes puppy dog face** lol That'd be funny.
I'm not sure who'll be there. It is my trianual IEP. Um, I
think one of my VI aids will be there, some teachers, the
principal (I think or maybe the assistant principal) my case
carrier, and someone who's in charge with the Special Ed
department and apparently is in charge of me too. lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:25:43 -0800
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello,
Just say you are in band and in order to continue learning and
to
advance to an equal level as your sighted class mates, you must
have the
Braille music. Playing by ear is not cutting it and you are
really
loving band, but you feel like you are being left behind.
If that wording doesn't give the administrators a heart attack I
don't
know what will.
Just know you are entitled to getting Braille music weather you
know
Braille music or not. There is no way they can get around it.
If they
try fighting you, just say it says in the ADA that you need an
equal
opportunity with your sighted class mates and without Braille
music, you
are laughably behind them.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/12/2013 2:00 PM, marissa wrote:
I have an Iep tomorrow, and I will try to bring it up, but I
don't
know what the apropriate time would
be to bring it up
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Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:19:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hi Marissa,
The fact of the matter is that your band director is obligated
to do
something to get you the materials you need. As it stands now,
you
are not being given an equal opportunity to participate in your
band
class, and that is illegal.
I'm assuming that you are given the materials you need for
other
courses. Band should not be different. If your English class
gets a
particular book to read, then you should get it in an
accessible
format too; same goes for music. Band directors often do not
understand this since they rarely come into contact with
students who
have needs out of the orm, but it just needs to be done.
Actually, it
takes very little effort on the part of the band director. All
he has
to do is give you the music as far in advance as possible so
you
can
get it transcribed and have it to practice. Or, make a
recording of
it somehow.
Hadley would be great for you to use, and like NLS it is free
of
charge. I'd recommend finding a braille music tutor, either
online or
in person, ,to work with. They will really be able to help
you.
The
sooner you learn braille music the better off you will be later
on and
the easier and more enjoyable music will be.
I had similar experiences in high school; I butted heads with
my
band
director all four years of high school over this issue. I had
to do a
lot of the learning on my own and almost never had music for
concerts
because he either didn't give it to me in advance or changed
pieces at
the last minute. I was first chair clarinet and had to fake
playing
the majority of the time. My skills were not being used; I
knew
I
deserved to be first chair based on my skill, but it wasn't
showing
because I was not given the materials. Going back to the
English
thing, that kind of thing is like being asked to write a report
on a
book you never got in braille and couldn't read. It was even
more
frustrating from my sophomore year onward, because then I
decided I
wanted to go into music. My parents were getting tired of
paying my
clarinet teacher to teach me band music, when our time together
should
have been spent working on ombiture, technique, and learning
pieces.
My mom had something put into my IEP stating that I was to be
given
all music in advance, and that music courses should be treated
with as
much seriousness as the core academic subjects. This might be
worht a
shot for you, but even after that my music theory teacher was
the only
one to really follow that guideline so someone would need to
police
the band director and make sure he follows through. Violating
an IEP
looks really bad on a teacher's record, so hopefully he will
take it
seriously and put aside some time. Band directors are very
busy
people, but they are not so busy that they can't take at tops
ten
minutes a week to figure out what their blind student needs and
act
accordingly.
On 12/12/13, marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
We only have one phone, and we never really answer it. I do,
when it's in my room, but not much. Think my aunt'll need to
do
it then.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 22:19:43 -0800
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello,
Once you fill out the application, they will give you a call
and
talk to
you about how you would like your subscription to be set up.
Tell them
you really want Braille music and they will give you info on
that.
For the books though, yes they will send it to your home if
need
be.
Most of the scores can just be downloaded right from the
website
as a BRF.
For a much faster process and a more sure way of getting the
correct
thing, go to:
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/currdet.htm
There you can get your own copy and if they are a little much
for
you,
you can get all the info to tell the NLS guys
Also for more people who read and study Braille music, Join
MENVI, that
is the music network for students, teachers and transcribers.
http://www.menvi.org/
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/11/2013 10:00 PM, marissa wrote:
Do they send it to my home?
Like is there a thing that says, "Thank you for subscribing?"
or
something like that? Or is it just the book?
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
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Date sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:48:10 -0800
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello,
You can contact NLS yourself at:
http://www.loc.gov/nls/signup.html
You can fill out the form and if I remember correctly, there
is
little
if no need for a guardian to sign on it. NLS never contacted
my
parents,
although my mom registered me a very long time ago.
An Introduction to Music for the Blind Student
is the name of the "Braille music starter Guide". NLS does
have
one
copy.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/11/2013 9:34 PM, marissa wrote:
I live with my aunt and uncel, and I'm trying to get my aunt
to
call
the NLS for the starters guide to braille music, so I can
start
to
learn by myself. I haven't heard of anything from my school,
or
my
band director, about any type of way for me to get music and
for
me to
learn it. At parades and stuff, If I don't know my music,
then
he
just tells me to fake it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie <naturelovingmom at gmail.com
To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:27:39 +1000
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
What do your parents say about this? Can you get support from
them?
Steph
----- Original Message -----
From: marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
But that's the thing, I don't know any braille music.
Nothing.
And I don't think my school would support me getting a braille
music transcriber anyway.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:29:58 -0800
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello,
If you already know time signatures, note values, key
signatures
and
repeats in Braille, you can go and just get the Bettye Krolick
Book for
more advanced symbols.
The Hadley school is not a conventional school, it is a school
where you
do assignments on your own and mail the finished work to a
teacher for
grading. You can do it all at home. It is free as well, but
you
don't
have as much of a dialogue with your teacher.
If you already know a little Braille music, I would tell your
high
school to get a Braille Music Transcriber, like Bettie
Downing,
and get
all your band music transcribed. Even if you can't quite
understand all
of it, just reading through it will really help you. If you
had
a
teacher like Steph or Sandra, you would advance super fast in
your
music. I can't say how much better having private teachers is
VS
doing
everything on your own. For the first 3 years of my music
major
I
learned everything on my own, starting from knowing nothing of
Braille
music to memorizing my first several vocal pieces. I've had a
little
over a month with Sandra and my whole concept of Braille music
has
changed and I really feel like I am just starting to learn
music.
Sighted teachers have no idea how to teach Braille music and
the
books
are full of extra tidbits you didn't need to know or things
you
already
knew about music.
If you are in 9th grade, get on the Braille music ASAP. You
will
be
thankful later on!
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/11/2013 7:28 PM, marissa wrote:
I am already in my school's band and have been for two years
since
eighth grade. I am in 9th grade. I know all that info.
Ambashure,
articulations, time signatures, rests, beats, counting beats,
and
more. My teacher never has time to teach lessons one on one,
and I
can't get music in any form, so right now, bands not that
much
fun,
but it kinda is because of the music.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
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Date sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:01:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hi Marissa,
I have played clarinet for the past 9 years and now study it
in
college as a music major. Here is what I would suggest.
What grade are you in school? Would it be feasible for you
to
join
your school's band? This is how I got my start, and it's
great
because you have plenty of songs to work on, get to do it as
a
member
of a group, and have a teacher who can assist you in getting
the
music/learning it.
If not, then I would highly recommend getting lessons of some
sort.
They don't have to be from a professional clarinetist at this
point,
but even a really good high school or undergraduate/graduate
college
student would be able to pinpoint specific aspects of your
playing to
work on and give you music that can address these techniques.
Playing
melodies is just part of playing the clarinet or any other
instrument;
there are articulations, dynamics, and other things that need
to
be
addressed in order for a piece to sound really good. Your
ombiture
(the way you position your mouth) has a lot to do with all
aspects of
playing, and it can take years to fix if you get into a habit
of
doing
it the wrong way. (speaking from experience).
If you're going to teach yourself music by ear, and learn the
braille
music code yourself (both things I have done) here are a few
tips I
found worked for me.
Realize that the notes you are playing on the clarinet are
different
from a piano. If you've just picked it up and not had any
instruction, and checked the notes you were playing on the
piano, you
may have thought that the note played without putting any
fingers down
on the keys is an F. It is actually a G in clarinet music,
so
just
realize that although the pitch is an F the note will be
shown
as a
step higher in any music. Brandon's example of the note Bb
actually
being a C (thumb and first 3 fingers of the left hand down)
was
also
correct.
It is great to start learning by ear, as it really
strengthens
your
musicianship and pays off in a big way later on if you do it
long
enough. The more you do it the better you will get, but it
is
really
helpful to challenge your ear. Learning in a band and having
to
pick
out your part from others is a really good way to do this.
It
forces
you to listen to the people around you, which also teaches
you
how to
blend with others.
For learning braille music, I primarily used books available
from NLS.
Titles included How to Read Braille Music, which has a great
glossary
of signs in the back, and the dictionary of braille music
signs.
It's
really tedious to go through the dictionary, but it did a
good
job of
exposing me to different signs.
In general, stay away from youtube videos. While learning
from
some
can be beneficial, a lot of the clarinet covers I've found
are
pretty
bad in terms of tone quality and intonation, and the people
don't
usually do a good job of using articulations. Playing things
for fun
is fine, but when you're learning it is important that you
work
on
these skills.
There are also summer programs which are organized similar to
camps.
Braille Beats in Lapeer Mi is one, and there are a few others
around
the country. I know of a primarily jazz oriented program in
massachusetts, and I heard of one in Louisiana too. Some
others
on
the list may know of more. These programs are really fun,
but
do
address braille music along with other music skills.
Think of finding someone in your area who may know the code.
I
worked
on it with a blind woman I know from my area one summer and
found it
to be really beneficial.
Overall, if none of these things work out, just continuously
expose
yourself to the code. The thing that really helped me get
solid
in
reading it was taking a music theory course in my senior year
of
high
school, and the thing that really made the difference was
reading
something in the code at least 5 days a week. The more you
do
anything the better your skills will be.
I hope these suggestions help. Feel free to contact me
off-list
with
other questions.
On 12/11/13, marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to go to a school, that's the thing. I'd rather
teach myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie <naturelovingmom at gmail.com
To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:37:36 +1000
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
I know hadley school for the blind also offer braille music
course, although I'd never taken it.
Steph
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<musictlk at nfbnet.org>eamusictlk at nfbnet.orgeysoft 9.4.
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
I do not have a computer for skype, or a phone, or a camera,
Wish
I did
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie <naturelovingmom at gmail.com
To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:27:57 +1000
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hi.
First of all, the clarinet does sound different than a
piano.
Also, I teach braille music online via skype, feel free to
email
info at mitchellpianostudio.com if you want to find out more.
Good luck with learning the clarinet!
Steph
----- Original Message -----
From: marissa <marissat789 at gmail.com
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Well, I found that the clarinet and the piano have the same
sounding notes. I tested it on my clarinet and the
keyboard
at
my school. I can't read braille music and don't have
anyone
to
help with that, but I think my aunt is getting me the book
from
NLS that teaches braille music.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
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Date sent: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:04:34 -0800
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello,
It sounds like you should just be learning any melody lines
of
music.
Just find Christmas songs or folk songs or pop songs and
play
them by
ear. If you know Braille music, you can get the vocal
scores
from NLS.
If you get a teacher, you could start working on more
difficult
music.
But the more difficult music will require that you learn
Braille
music.
Just realize that your clarinet probably sounds a different
note
than
what is written, so if you find music for a piece in the
key
of
C
and
you play it on the piano, it will probably sound on your
clarinet
as Bb.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 12/10/2013 7:40 PM, marissa wrote:
That's allright. (smiles) Do you know any songs? Meaning,
do
you know
any easy songs on clarinet. I taught myself:
River Flows in You
Kiss the Rain
part of Forever and Always
part of Hedwig's Theme
and made up two
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Donahue" <braille at satx.rr.com
To: "'Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 20:12:43 -0600
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hello Marissa and everyone,
I used to play clarinet, but it has been over 27 years
since
I
touched one. Sorry I can't be more help.
Mary Donahue
"Be well, do good work, and keep in touch."
Garrison Keillor
-----Original Message-----
From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of
marissa
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:12 PM
To: Music Talk
Subject: [musictlk] Does anyone play clarinet?
Hi all,
I just wanted to know if anyone plays clarinet? I need
some
songs to
try to
play.
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