[musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Thu Feb 28 23:20:47 UTC 2013

Yes, you can sing or play a song in church... Unless... you want to display or copy the lyrics: then you are in copyright land again even if it's  an  extra copy for the extra guitar or whatever.  I know lots of churches quietly ignore this and routinely make copies of lyrics, reprint them in worship aids or just shrug and display them on overhead projectors.  If it's a concert, then, again, someone, somewhere should be paying even if it's a cherity affair.  
Never easy!

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From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

You don't need permission to sing songs in church, unless you're being paid a salary, (a contract,) for example.
If you are singing the songs at church for a love offering basis, you aren't profiting from it, so you're okay.
Blessings, Joshua
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From: musictlk [musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Debbie [mouseless at mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Thanks to all for your helpful suggestions.

Do I need to get permission to be able to sing a song in church, or does this just apply to those one records?

Also, are there pricing discounts through any of the music organizations?

Debbie Human
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From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
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> Likewise, songs that one may think is surely copyrighted may not be! 
> For instance, my last album has a recording of "Morning Has Broken" 
> many believe belongs to Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam); however, the music 
> was written in the 1600s and the popular lyrics were written in 1923, 
> making both the music and the lyrics in the public domain.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
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> From: "Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen" <swellsj at bgsu.edu>
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> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
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>> And word to the wise... double check the status of a song: we've 
>> often come upon things we think: surely that's in the public domain: 
>> school kids sing that on the bus etc. etc. etc. only to find out it isn't.
>> $.09 a copy isn't much, but,if everyone would pay it, more song 
>> writers would eat!
>>
>> Sheri W-J
>>
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:26 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>>
>> Hello,
>> You need to go to Harry Fox Agency.
>> http://www.harryfox.com/
>>
>> It isn't a big deal if you are giving away the CD, but if you are 
>> selling it with covers you must get rights or stop distributing the 
>> CD. If you want to perform the songs you need to join either ASCAP, 
>> BMI or SESAC. The only time this is not true is if:
>> 1. You write all your own songs.
>> 2. You perform almost exclusively open domain works like music 
>> written before the 1930s...
>> 3. You have a written contract signed by both parties giving you the 
>> right to perform the song from the owner of the song.
>> When you contact the people, don't tell them you already have the 
>> song recorded. Tell them you would like to have it on your CD. That 
>> will lower the price considerably.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debbie
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:30 PM
>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>>
>> I know I did things in reverse by recording a cd first, and then 
>> asking questions.  However, it was originally to be given to friends 
>> and family in the beginning.
>>
>> In order to deal with more and more requests from those who've heard 
>> it and want one or more of the sixteen songs, where can I go to see 
>> who owns the rights to a given song?  I know about songclearance, and 
>> may use them at some point.  I feel rather certain that most of the 
>> songs are in the public domain with the exception of two.
>>
>> Then I am thinking about using the service of cdbaby to help market 
>> these songs.
>>
>> Debbie Human
>>
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