[musictlk] Final thoughts
Diane
dvlasoff at roadrunner.com
Thu Nov 28 19:01:39 UTC 2013
Even though I have limited Choir experience, I can see that I am developing
some of the skills you are all mentioning. I have already been approached by
other Choir members who are astonished by my skills so far. Aside from my
personal pleasure at doing a job well I am enjoying the opportunity to
present a competent persona. Quite a few of the Choir members have related
stories of their family members who have or are losing vision. It saddens
me to hear their stories. None of them have been positive. There is still
so much educating we need to do with the public so when families are
presented with new challenges, such as vision loss, they can better support
the individual and as a result their whole family. In some small way I
believe that by doing my best I can begin to alter their perceptions.
My concerns with initial downbeats and especially long unpredictable ritards
will at present probably need the pinky holding technique.
Thank you all for helping me with my musical technique and thereby present
the competent persona I am striving for.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
Diane
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 07:11:40 -0600
From: "Atty Rose" <attyrose at cox.net>
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It becomes a sort of instinct. I belong to the River city Mixed chorus and I
am totally blind, but once you learn the music it becomes second nature to
know what is going on. Well for me. It is a little like hearing with your
voice.
It is the dancing that I have to feel my neighbor to get. LOL
Good Luck,
Atty
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> What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
> director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing things,
> (piano, ofrte ETC.)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Mentink
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>
> Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her
> finger for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and
> crescendo, touch for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if
> she's willing. You could have her tap on the back of your hand, if
> that is more comfortable.
>
> HTH.
>
> At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>>Hi-
>>
>>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
>>advice/recommendations with.
>>
>>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>>strategy I could use.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>>
>>Diane
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:23:02 -0800
From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
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I have sung with the Orange Community Master Chorale since May 2002. I have
also sung with the First United Methodist Church of Orange for that length
of time. Both choirs have the same dirrector. I have gotten use to the way
Mike Short works and can anticipate what he is going to do durring a song.
That, of course takes time.
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It becomes a sort of instinct. I belong to the River city Mixed chorus and I
am totally blind, but once you learn the music it becomes second nature to
know what is going on. Well for me. It is a little like hearing with your
voice.
It is the dancing that I have to feel my neighbor to get. LOL
Good Luck,
Atty
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
> What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
> director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing things,
> (piano, ofrte ETC.)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Mentink
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>
> Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her
> finger for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and
> crescendo, touch for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if
> she's willing. You could have her tap on the back of your hand, if
> that is more comfortable.
>
> HTH.
>
> At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>>Hi-
>>
>>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
>>advice/recommendations with.
>>
>>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>>strategy I could use.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>>
>>Diane
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:16:45 -0500
From: "Anne Martin" <amartin at negia.net>
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Subject: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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I Agree with Atty and the others.
I have sung in a number of choirs over the years, and even though I am
totally blind, it becomes second nature to me.
I like the phrase that was used "hearing with your voice." Plus, I feel the
music and can usually anticipate what is about to happen next, unless it is
changed during the rehearsal.
Just go and let Goddd...! Soon you'll be telling other new choir members
how you do it so successfully...!
Anne
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From: "Atty Rose" <attyrose at cox.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
> It becomes a sort of instinct. I belong to the River city Mixed chorus and
> I am totally blind, but once you learn the music it becomes second nature
> to know what is going on. Well for me. It is a little like hearing with
> your voice.
>
> It is the dancing that I have to feel my neighbor to get. LOL
>
> Good Luck,
> Atty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>
>
>> What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
>> director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing things,
>> (piano, ofrte ETC.)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Linda Mentink
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>>
>> Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her
>> finger for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and
>> crescendo, touch for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if
>> she's willing. You could have her tap on the back of your hand, if
>> that is more comfortable.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>>>Hi-
>>>
>>>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>>>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
>>>advice/recommendations with.
>>>
>>>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>>>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>>>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>>>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>>>strategy I could use.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>>>
>>>Diane
>>>
>>>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:52:46 -0500
From: "ann harrison" <annwrites75 at gmail.com>
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I agree, I listen to the choir director for our church choir and I also can
feel the music, so I can pick up on changes, and in some cases "hidden"
harmonies that others don't pick up. Like Ann Martin said, let go and let
God.
Love and prayers,
Ann Harrison
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From: "Anne Martin" <amartin at negia.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:16 AM
To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>
> I Agree with Atty and the others.
>
> I have sung in a number of choirs over the years, and even though I am
> totally blind, it becomes second nature to me.
> I like the phrase that was used "hearing with your voice." Plus, I feel
> the music and can usually anticipate what is about to happen next, unless
> it is changed during the rehearsal.
> Just go and let Goddd...! Soon you'll be telling other new choir members
> how you do it so successfully...!
> Anne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Atty Rose" <attyrose at cox.net>
> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>
>
>> It becomes a sort of instinct. I belong to the River city Mixed chorus
>> and I am totally blind, but once you learn the music it becomes second
>> nature to know what is going on. Well for me. It is a little like hearing
>> with your voice.
>>
>> It is the dancing that I have to feel my neighbor to get. LOL
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Atty
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>>
>>
>>> What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
>>> director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing
>>> things, (piano, ofrte ETC.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Linda Mentink
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
>>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
>>>
>>> Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her
>>> finger for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and
>>> crescendo, touch for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if
>>> she's willing. You could have her tap on the back of your hand, if
>>> that is more comfortable.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>>>>Hi-
>>>>
>>>>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>>>>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
>>>>advice/recommendations with.
>>>>
>>>>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>>>>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>>>>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>>>>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>>>>strategy I could use.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>>>>
>>>>Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:41:31 -0800
From: "Diane" <dvlasoff at roadrunner.com>
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Hi-
Thank you both for your suggestions. I feel much more confident with our
upcoming preformances as a result.
Diane
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:50:28 -0500
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Subject: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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Hi-
This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized the
various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
advice/recommendations with.
How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score that
she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light perception
and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear what other
members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better strategy I
could use.
Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
Diane
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:57:34 +0000
From: <dvlasoff at roadrunner.com>
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Subject: [musictlk] strategies to follow directors needed
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Hi-
This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized the
various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
advice/recommendations with.
How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score that
she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light perception
and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear what other
members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better strategy I
could use.
Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
Diane
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:57:34 -0600
From: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her finger
for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and crescendo, touch
for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if she's willing. You could
have her tap on the back of your hand, if that is more comfortable.
HTH.
At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love
>some advice/recommendations with.
>
>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>strategy I could use.
>
>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>
>Diane
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:29:15 -0800
From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing things,
(piano, ofrte ETC.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mentink
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
To: Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her finger
for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and crescendo, touch
for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if she's willing. You could
have her tap on the back of your hand, if that is more comfortable.
HTH.
At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love
>some advice/recommendations with.
>
>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>strategy I could use.
>
>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>
>Diane
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:50:29 -0800
From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] Thanks for the advice and support
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Good luck. Glad I could be of some help.
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] Thanks for the advice and support
Hi-
Thank you both for your suggestions. I feel much more confident with our
upcoming preformances as a result.
Diane
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:50:28 -0500
From: <dvlasoff at roadrunner.com>
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Subject: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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Hi-
This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized the
various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
advice/recommendations with.
How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score that
she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light perception
and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear what other
members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better strategy I
could use.
Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
Diane
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:57:34 +0000
From: <dvlasoff at roadrunner.com>
To: musictlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [musictlk] strategies to follow directors needed
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Hi-
This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized the
various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love some
advice/recommendations with.
How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score that
she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light perception
and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear what other
members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better strategy I
could use.
Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
Diane
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:57:34 -0600
From: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
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Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her finger
for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and crescendo, touch
for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if she's willing. You could
have her tap on the back of your hand, if that is more comfortable.
HTH.
At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love
>some advice/recommendations with.
>
>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>strategy I could use.
>
>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>
>Diane
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:29:15 -0800
From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
Message-ID: <300FBA6EA0874EEF83ACC4929B5976B0 at RobHP>
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What has been suggested so far will work, but the longer you work with a
director, the more you will get use to that person's way of doing things,
(piano, ofrte ETC.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Mentink
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:57 PM
To: Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] strategies for following directors needed
Have the person next to you link little fingers with you and move her finger
for beat patterns, lighter or harder for decrescendo and crescendo, touch
for fermatas, etc. Anything like that will work, if she's willing. You could
have her tap on the back of your hand, if that is more comfortable.
HTH.
At 05:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>This autumn I have joined our local community chorus. I have memorized
>the various songs we will perform. I do have an issue I would love
>some advice/recommendations with.
>
>How do you follow the director through the various aspects of the score
>that she will indicate via visual prompts? I have only a little light
>perception and have been holding back a smidge on my reactions to hear
>what other members are doing. I really hope, however, there is a better
>strategy I could use.
>
>Thanks in advance for your time in helping me.
>
>Diane
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:23:30 -0800
From: "Humberto" <humbertoa5369 at netzero.net>
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Subject: Re: [musictlk] BMC: Braille Music Compiler
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Hello Mario,
This is Humberto writing back regarding your Braille Music compiler web
project. I want to use BRF as the table when entering Braille music, but I
get errors no matter what I try. I tried several steps such as: copying and
pasting from a Braille writer program (duxbury) so that the Braille
characters come out in standard computer braille, which I assume the site
accepts. then, after I paste and click the "Transcribe to print" button, I
get an error message "Unable to translate Braille music, try again."
Even when I tried to type the associated computer braille dot combinations
for if I was writing in braille, I still get the same message.
I also tried writing the Braille music from my Braille Note, then saving to
a BRF file, and pasting the contents of the BRF file onto the site with my
computer, and still get the same message.
I'll try to see if you can get this music to work using this link:
http://bmc.delysid.org/?table=brf&music=.%3E%22p%22]%22\+%22\%22]%22%24%22%3
A+%22%3F%22%3F%22%3A%22%24+%22%24%22%3A%22o.%3E%22p%22]%22\+%22\%22]%22%24%2
2%3A+%22%3F%22%3F%22%3A%22%24+%22%24%22%3A%22o+%22p%22]%22\+%22\%22]%22%24%2
2%3A+%22%3F%22%3F%22%3A%22%24+%22%3A%22%3F%22n%3Ck%0D%0A+%22p%22]%22\+%22\%2
2]%22%24%22%3A+%22%3F%22%3F%22%3A%22%24+%22%3A%22%3F%22n%3Ck%0D%0A
Can you explain what's going on?
is there anything that I need to do before typing and / or pasting the music
into the edit field?
you can write me off list for your convenience. My direct email address is:
avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
Thanks and happy thanksgiving.
Humberto
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Lang" <mlang at tugraz.at>
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [musictlk] BMC: Braille Music Compiler
> Humberto <humbertoa5369 at netzero.net> writes:
>
>> I am interested in your web Braille music project but I am having
>> difficult time entering music into the edit box. How do I type / enter
>> the music?
>
> You can either paste Unicode braille, or enter music directly with your
> keyboard, and specifying the braille table in use on your side.
>
>> What keystrokes (or combinations of keystrokes) do I use to enter
>> UniCode Braille music?
>
> That depends. Most platforms have no native support for entering
> unicode braille yet. Some screen readers might have.
>
> I typically just set the braille table to "de" (german), and enter
> braille music directly on my computer keyboard, since I know which key
> will produce which dot pattern... You know that too, I guess?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mario Lang
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:49:32 -0800
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Here is a great comedy clip from 21979 between Carson and Severanson.
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